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Overseas Malaysian recently declared bankrupt need help

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asked on Oct 13, 2011 at 23:10
by   Lost
edited on Mar 6, 2017 at 07:19
 
I am currently oversea and just discovered am declared a bankrupt and blacklisted when I checked at imi.gov.my web. I did try to communicate with Insolvency Dept without firm answer. They only ask me to come back to see him. So here I wish fellow Malaysian can give me some useful tips. I was declared a bankrupt while am still in oversea (working hard to save money here).

Can I still travel between ASEAN countries if I am a bankrupt and my passport blacklisted?

Have anyone actually being blacklisted when overseas and still travel within ASEAN without problem?

Hope someone (bankrupt/blacklisted) in my shoes before and able to advise me whether I can travel freely within ASEAN countries before coming back Malaysia?

Also, Today Star News mentioned this..
Alias gave the assurance that those who stole and misused blacklisted passports would not be able to leave or enter the country.

“Once blacklisted, we will also send the information to other Asean countries and Australia with which we have an understanding on the matter,” he said.
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answered on Oct 13, 2011 at 23:55
by   1818
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 07:20
 
@Lost

As long as your passport is still valid, you may travel to any country that accept Malaysian passport. If you're already bankrupt, obviously you won't be able to renew your passport anymore at the Malaysian High Commission, in whatever country you are in.
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answered on Oct 14, 2011 at 00:10
by   Lost
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 07:26
 
Thanks 1818

I can see you are very helpful to all those in need here..

But here are some more questions where I hope you or someone can tell me.. because I don't wish to take chances..

My passport was renewed and I travelled last year and I was declared bankrupt this year. So my passport is still valid but blacklisted (confirmed in imi.gov.my). However, I read today news where the Government will send/update all the ASEAN countries on those Passport blacklisted. So I am a bit worry to travel (for work) within ASEAN (in near future).

The reason I ask so is because this will greatly affect my planning for the next 2 years. I plan to work hard overseas next 2 years before coming home to settle my bankruptcy. So if it limit my travel then I might have to change my plan. I don't want to be stopped when arrive at Bangkok airport and send home.

I am not trying to hide or avoid settling my problem but to get ready (save enough money) before I come home.

Also, can I ask someone to follow up with Insolvency Dept on my behalf? If so I can actually start paying monthly instalment soon to clear my name without coming home?

Thanks in advance.
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answered on Oct 14, 2011 at 03:18
by   1818
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 07:44
 
@Lost

Based on what I read in the newspaper article below, only passports that are reported lost or stolen to the police will be blacklisted. Or am I too blur/daft to fully comprehend what was actually reported in that article? Double check with people who are smarter than I am, shouldn't be hard.

Lost IDs? No need to tell cops: Malaysia

The Star/Asia News Network
Thursday, Oct 13, 2011

PETALING JAYA - Government departments no longer need a police report for lost or stolen documents like MyKad and passport when applying for a replacement.

Immigration director-general Datuk Alias Ahmad said those who lose their passports only needed to lodge a report with the department.

"They only need to make a report with us and we will blacklist the lost or stolen passport," he said in an interview here yesterday, adding that the move had been implemented since June 27.

He said the department received about 3,500 cases of stolen, damaged and misplaced passports each month.

It was reported yesterday that the public would no longer need to lodge a police report for lost or damaged birth, marriage, academic and vehicle registration certificates, passports, driving licences and land grant.

Chief Secretary to the Government Tan Sri Mohd Sidek Hassan had said that the decision to abolish the requirement was made during a meeting on April 6 because police reports were a non-administrative practice and not provided for under any law.

Alias gave the assurance that those who stole and misused blacklisted passports would not be able to leave or enter the country.

"Once blacklisted, we will also send the information to other Asean countries and Australia with which we have an understanding on the matter," he said.

A National Registration Depart­ment spokesman said police reports were no longer necessary to replace documents, including MyKad and certificates for birth, marriage, divorce, adoption and death.

"Of course, the applicants can still lodge a police report if they want to. To replace a lost or stolen MyKad, the applicant only needs to go our nearest branch. For first time replacement, the applicant needs to pay RM110 (S$45).

"If it is for the second time, the fee will be RM210," she said, adding that the fee for damaged MyKad was RM10.

"The applicant must however submit the spoilt MyKad to our officers," she said, adding that once a person had applied for a new MyKad, the old one would be considered void and could not be used in transactions.

"Each MyKad has its own unique serial number. The old one will be cancelled once a new one is created," she said.

She also warned that under the National Registration Act, those found with more than one MyKad could be sentenced to three years in jail or fined RM20,000 or both.

A Road Transport Department official said it had abolished the police report requirement since 2005 to replace driving licences.

"An applicant only needs to visit our nearest branch and bring along his or her MyKad, photo and RM5," he said.

Source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20111013-304727.html
Also, can I ask someone to follow up with Insolvency Dept on my behalf? If so I can actually start paying monthly instalment soon to clear my name without coming home?
Why not? Go ahead, ask that someone to make an appointment with an officer at JIM to find out what to do next.
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answered on Oct 14, 2011 at 03:42
by   Lost
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 07:49
 
Yes, first I will get someone to check for me at Jabatan Insolvensi Malaysia (JIM).. before, I did email to them many times about my situation and ask for proposal to start payment but they just keep asking me to go see them personally (which I can't and I explained many times in my email to them).

Now, I will get someone to check with them on my behalf and hopefully to post here the update.
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answered on Oct 19, 2011 at 19:18
by   No Worry
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 07:59
 
I was declared bankrupt last year, and I able to get passport to work at oversea for 1 year and after 1 year I need to renew again from Jabatan Insolvensi Malaysia (JIM), simple application procedure, your company need to offer you a letter to JIM and state down that which country you need to travel and for what purpose, and you be able to travel those country stated by your company and approval will take a month.

Hope this can help you.
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answered on Feb 11, 2012 at 23:27
by   fen fen
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 08:07
 
My brother-in-law was declared bankrupt under "unknown" circumstances - he was a guarantor of his uncle's company.

My brother-in-law is currently in overseas, he is the Permanent Resident there and his passport going to expire in 1 month time.

Please advise whether he can renew his passport in High Commission or Embassy of that particular country?

Appreciate if you guys can give me some ideas.
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answered on Feb 12, 2012 at 01:34
by   Jane1963
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 08:11
 
@fen fen

Why don't you ask your sister to go Malaysia High Commission over there to enquire. Ask her to pretend helping a friend. See what the High Commissioner advise her on the problem.
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answered on Feb 12, 2012 at 05:51
by   worry1970
Dear Lost,

I can't answer your query about your travel to ASEAN countries. In regards to dealing with JIM, I am currently dealing with them with my case. Yes, at first the officer in charge will insist that you have to come back to sort this issue with them. But if you explain to them about your circumstances of why you cannot go back to Malaysia, for example due to family and work commitments and also money issue, they would be able to communicate with you via email. They will first email you a form requiring details of yourself which you can fill up and email it back to them. This will then followed by some other forms of agreement on your commitment to pay the monthly payment etc... You also need to appoint someone in Malaysia e.g. family or friend to make your monthly payment on your behalf.

One of these forms need to be signed in front of the Commissioner for Oath or in my case I get the embassy to do it for me to save the hassle of translating the whole form into English. When completed, this form needs to be sent by post. The rest of the forms can be done through email.

The officers in charge in JIM are usually very friendly and they are on OUR side. I was very skeptical at first but so far they have been very good and helpful.

Hope this answer your question. Good luck.
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answered on Feb 12, 2012 at 23:50
by   fen fen
Thank u very much for your kind reply
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answered on Feb 17, 2012 at 09:03
by   Laurie
edited Mar 6, 2017 at 08:27
 
@Lost,

I am not blacklisted and do have a valid passport while working oversea. When I returned to Malaysia at KLIA immigration checkpoint, the officer told me I am blacklisted? I am not allow to leave Malaysia!!! I don't know at all and ask the officer, then they checked and found out that I am a bankrupt and told me report to Jabatan Insolvensi Malaysia (JIM) as soon as possible.

So I met with the Insolvency Official Assignee (OA) and she told me that a bank has sued me, I told her I don't know at all and I need to work so how? Than she helped me open a file stated all my creditors.

Beside that they need our oversea working contract stated which company I work, where I work, duration, salary.., letter stated my scope of work, a guarantor.... don't worry it is not complicated.

Every six month they need your summary of spending, they will allow us to submit our spending summary during our second year application.

The process for my case everytime (recently I got my 6th time approvals) 2 weeks I will receive the approval and went over to Putrajaya Immigration to get the release approval letter from the Immigration Department. Then we are free to leave Malaysia to work oversea.

Also one time my passport was going to expire and I informed the Insolvency OA, a letter of approval released from Insolvency and I am allowed to renew my passport.

This is my personal experience sharing to all.

Good Luck to All, don't worry it is just a temporary setback if we face it.
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