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Unmarried Foreign Partner Pregnant

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asked on Jun 26, 2013 at 22:37
by   Sung Tee
edited on Jan 5, 2018 at 04:30
 
I'm new to this forum so I apologize if such topic has been discussed before.

Here is my story and would appreciate all the help I could get. I'm a Chinese Malaysian and married. Recently my Thailand girlfriend is pregnant and she agreed to be my second wife. Since I'm married to another women I doubt I can give her any official martial status, but in the same time I want her to be able to stay in Malaysia in the future and have my kid born as Malaysian citizen. So my questions are:

1) She would like to stay in Thailand because she got her parents to take care of her during the entire pregnancy;

a) Can the child registered as Malaysian citizen if he is born in Thailand? Even if the mother and I are NOT married?

b) How can the mother legally stay in Malaysia in the future together with my kid?

2) We came across this idea where she apply for 6 months visa to Malaysia, give birth over here so the child can be a Malaysia citizen;

a) What happen to the mother, how can she stay back to take care of the kid?

b) Can she travel back to Thailand to visit her parents and stay in Malaysia when shes back?

Please don't judge me, I'm not proud of what happen. But what's done is done, I just want both the mother and my child to be well taken care off by me.
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answered on Nov 9, 2014 at 18:26
by   anonymous
edited Jan 5, 2018 at 04:39
 
You can forget about this idea... just let your girlfriend be taken care by her mom in her country...
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answered on Nov 9, 2014 at 22:36
by   Justice4child
edited Jan 5, 2018 at 04:41
 
When you post in a public forum for discussion, be prepared for negative remarks.

FOR THE CHILD.. BE A RESPONSIBLE FATHER

1. You are Malaysian, child will be Malaysian if you register child the moment child is born. Be prepared to be fined and other penalties.

2. What happen to the mother, how can she stay back to take care of the kid.?
What is going to happen to your WIFE and children, if any, can you afford 2 families?

3. She would like to stay in Thailand because she got her parents to take care of her during the entire pregnancy;
Normal request. How sure are you that she may want the child and not you in the future and not come back to your side?

4. How can the mother legally stay in Malaysia in the future together with my kid?
On what legal grounds.? She is just an illegal immigrant.

Do think wisely and act wisely.
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answered on Dec 29, 2017 at 23:22
by   Curious V
For God's sake...you don't answer questions by asking questions. Certainly that person is in need of help and nobody wants to be judged, otherwise he wouldn't even come here to ask questions in the first place. First of all, who are we to judge another person unless it's a legal trial be it trial by law or religion? You can advise, but do not discriminate nor judge others if you don't understand his actual situation. Everyone makes mistake, we can only advise, let the judge be the judge, not us.

In my case, I'm still unmarried and my foreign gf is not pregnant, yet I'm here to study further so I can understand more of what the law can serve its purpose should anything happen beyond my control.

Be neutral to answer one's question and help unconditionally if you wish to help. Otherwise just keep your bias opinions to yourself.
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answered on Dec 30, 2017 at 11:08
by   Justice4child
edited Jan 15, 2018 at 22:43
 
you don't answer questions by asking questions.
Is that a criteria in this forum? You are teaching me writing ethics?

First of all, who are we to judge another person unless it's a legal trial be it trial by law or religion?
You will be judged by Social Laws. Leave religion out, you know very little of it. The above have broken not only religious, cultural, Laws of Malaysia, Matrimonial Laws and violations of the rights of all of the children of this father.

You can advise, but do not discriminate nor judge others 
Be neutral to answer one's question and help unconditionally 
The pot calling kettle black? Are you imposing your beliefs on me? Think twice before you reply or write further replies.

The above @Sung Tee has been answer with all the obstacles highlighted and potential impeding lawsuits by his legally married wife.
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answered on Dec 30, 2017 at 14:26
by   jeff005
edited Jan 5, 2018 at 04:59
 
Wow, a long forgotten thread, you guys can really google..!

@ Sung Tee

Perhaps your issues were resolved with during this passage of time or has manifested tremendously after 5 years. Since this very old thread is being reactivated, for the benefit of those new comers and potential defaulters of married life for new companions, below are my personal opinions (non legal, non intrusive).

a) Can the child registered as Malaysian citizen if he is born in Thailand? Even if the mother and I are NOT married? 
The fact that you are still legally married to another woman, this child cannot be registered as your child in Malaysia or Thailand. The citizenship of this child will follow the mother whether born in Malaysia or Thailand.

b) How can the mother legally stay in Malaysia in the future together with my kid? 
She can come to visit the child periodically in Malaysia using Social Visit Pass  of 30 days. Too many trips may result on a  NTL  stamp on her passport.
Note that this child is an illegal immigrant  even if born in Malaysia.

2) We came across this idea where she apply for 6 months visa to Malaysia, give birth over here so the child can be a Malaysia citizen; 
Who told you? NO SUCH VISA.. the child is not Malaysian.

a) What happen to the mother, how can she stay back to take care of the kid? 
No legal way, can come visit periodically.

b) Can she travel back to Thailand to visit her parents and stay in Malaysia when shes back? 
She is supposed to stay in Thailand, not here.

b) How can the mother legally stay in Malaysia in the future together with my kid? 
They are both Thai Nationals. Do not bring them here to become illegals.
Find a employer who is willing to get her a Legal Foreign Work Permit. After 5 years living/working here, then apply for  PR  then the child can come in on  "Dependent Pass" under her.

I just want both the mother and my child to be well taken care off by me.
Just send moneys monthly and visit them discreetly.
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answered on Jan 5, 2018 at 18:37
by   jeff005
edited Jan 15, 2018 at 22:41
 
you don't answer questions by asking questions.
One have to acknowledge that different readers interpret issues or understand those issues at a different perspective, hence, questions are asked to clarify further.

Sometimes when by asking questions on what the poster have asked, the poster will/may/can realize it was a futile question with no appropriate answers. It can be a polite way of answering questions instead of the reply is "this is a silly or stupid question!"
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answered on Jan 5, 2018 at 22:57
by   jeff005
edited Jan 15, 2018 at 22:41
 
@ Curious V

let the judge be the judge, 
Court Judges do make mistakes too. That is why there are 5 Levels in our Judiciary System for legal recourse.

what the law can serve its purpose should anything happen 
The correct course of action is to be a law abiding citizen. Not reading laws to try to circumvent around it when illegal activities has been done or be a spiteful vigilante.
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