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Regaining Malaysian Citizenship (Got Australian Citizenship 8 Years Ago)

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asked on Apr 2, 2013 at 14:34
by   Gatal Fellow
edited on Dec 18, 2017 at 03:51
 
Just a quick question. About 10 years ago my family and I migrated to Australia from Malaysia. I was then asked by my dad to obtain Australian citizenship shortly after for certain purposes.

I have never formally renounced my Malaysian citizenship (ie never submitted any formal forms to the Malaysian govt).

I am curious as to whether I can still 'covertly' maintain my Malaysian citizenship in this case?

I still have my old IC card from my high school days (ie the pre-MyKad one).

I also have my Malaysian passport too, most likely expired now.

However, I have flown into Malaysia a couple of times now using my Australian passport.

What would qualify me in the eyes of the Malaysian govt as being a 'Malaysian' still? I'd venture to guess that I'd need to update my IC into a MyKad and somehow renew my Malaysian passport??

And lastly, is any of this strictly illegal in the eyes of the Malaysian law? Ie what would happen to me if I was caught out by the Malaysian govt for trying to maintain my Malaysian citizenship? I would have thought at the very worst, they'd only reject my application, but no problems as I can always fall back on my Australian citizenship and passport. Am I right in my assumptions?

Thanks, law dudes here!
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answered on Apr 3, 2013 at 02:02
by   Geru Kapela
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 03:58
 
10 years is a long time.  The authorities will have a lot of questions regarding your lengthy absence when you apply for renewal etc.  Current and up to date passports/ICs are a manifestation of your Malaysian citizenship.

Malaysia's dual nationality law is strictly enforced; for very good reasons, unless sat upon from high above.  Many of the elite and royal members of Malaysia have dual nationality.  The authorities turn a blind eye to this.

Foreign passport holders are finger printed at entry.  I presume you have been done! Your passport renewal application etc will be rejected once a cross check is made, and your old passport will be confiscated. 

My advice to you is to take and use all you can from your adopted land.  When you are old and grey and have saved enough money, apply to return under the MM2H programme.  Meanwhile visit as much as you can and enjoy Malaysia.

Finally, if you know any Datos or Tengkus you can get away with it.
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answered on Apr 15, 2013 at 19:03
by   Nangka busuk
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 04:03
 
Gatal, You can do the following:

1. Get a new MyKad. Presenting your old ic is normally sufficient documentation. Be prepared with a good reason why you haven't renewed yet, e.g. "I was studying in Austalia"

2. Renew your expired passport. Your new Mykad and old passport is sufficient documentation. You can get this in 1 day at imm1gration offices. There is no cross-check with fingerprinting.

3. Use the new passport at least once. Then leave Malaysia with your Australian passport.

4. When returning to Malaysia, use the Autogate and your Malaysian passport, it will let you in.

This works and has been done. There may be small element of risk so only do it if you really want MY passport.
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answered on Apr 30, 2013 at 16:20
by   PP wee
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 04:04
 
@Nangka,

Thank you so much for your help!

I have a question, since I am having the same problem as Gatal. When you are renewing your old IC to Mykad, will the officer ask to see your passport? Because my passport has expired 10 years ago? If he does, then they will know I am having dual citizen, because if I don't have a valid passport, how do I enter Malaysia right?
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answered on Jun 15, 2013 at 16:55
by   Nangka Busuk
PP Wee,

When you update your old IC to Mykad, the officer will not typically ask to see your passport, but they may ask why you have been delayed in doing so. Perhaps you have been out of the country for a while as a student, an answer which would satisfy them.

The officers' concern is with fraudulent renewals, which is not the case for you. They are typically not concerned about immigration issues, just be sure not to appear like a complete foreigner when you go!
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answered on Sep 4, 2013 at 16:13
by   john004
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 04:06
 
Hi Nagka,

I am in exactly the same situation as Gatal Fellow. Left Malaysia as a 10 year old in 90 and ten years later took up Aussie citizenship  which I regret to this day, and have been travelling back and forth into Malaysia with my Aussie passport. Like Gatal Fellow, I have not renounced my Malaysian citizenship and am holding an IC from 1995. My question to you are in regards to the following steps that you had advised Gatal Fellow to follow.

"Use the new passport at least once. Then leave Malaysia with your Australian passport."

By using the newly acquired Malaysian passport at least once (I am assuming you are saying make a quick trip and back to a neighbouring country such as Singapore or Thailand), won't this raise a flag in the system when I leave Malaysia? I ask this because in my case, the last time I left Malaysia with a Malaysian passport was in 1997, and subsequently have been coming in and out with my Australian passport. Since my last exit date with my old Malaysian passport was in 1997, will it still not be in the system showing me leaving Malaysia all those years ago but no subsequent return stamp?

  "When returning to Malaysia, use the Autogate and your Malaysian passport, it will let you in."

The next question was, assuming the first step works and I am now entering Malaysia from Australia via the autogate with the new Malaysian passport:  will the autogate not flag me as I don't have an exit stamp on my Malaysian passport (ie as I would have previously left KLIA with my Australian passport?)

Hope that you can assist me with this as I am desperate to return back and make Malaysia home again. Cheers
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answered on Sep 8, 2013 at 20:46
by   Anonymous
It seems like there are a few of us in this situation.  I am in the same situation as the few of you that mentioned the dual citizenship matter.  I was born in Malaysia and am now an Australian citizenship, with an Australian passport.  I have not formally renounced my Malaysian citizenship and I still have my old Malaysian passport that has expired.  If I go to renew my old Malaysian passport will they fingerprint me again?  If so they may get a match with my Australian passport that I have used to enter into Malaysia several times recently.  If it is a renewal this may not be an issue?  Any help would be much appreciated thanks!
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answered on Sep 16, 2013 at 19:17
by   Malaysia Boleh
I think you would need to consider whether the Passport Renewal officer will look through your old MY passport. If they do and see that you have an old Aussie PR status in there then they may ask you to produce a letter from the Australian Internal Affairs that you have not taken up citizenship there. But some of my friends that live here in similar situations have said they don't even look at your old passport, it's done in a matter of 5-10 minutes and they give you a number to pick up your new one.
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answered on Sep 21, 2013 at 03:30
by   Bnym
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 04:09
 
I have been reading through this thread and I have a similar problem.

1. Have Australian and Malaysian passport
2. Renewed IC no problem in 2009
3. Got renewed passport from Malaysia in Jan 2013 no problem IN MALAYSIA
4. Currently in Taiwan working and never traveled on my Malaysian passport before, exited with Australian passport
5. Coming back to work in Malaysia so I think it is wise to use Malaysian passport again

What next??

6. Use Australian to come in since I renewed my Malaysian passport in Malaysia but didn't exit with it yet? Then exit with Malaysian first and re-enter. Then leave with Australian passport and enter with Malaysian?

Or

6. Just enter with Malaysian passport?

Or

6. Just never use Malaysian passport? Will they eventually stop me at Malaysian customs?

What is the best thing to do? Not sure if the electric custom gates will allow me in since I never left Malaysia with my Malaysian passport. Help!!
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answered on Sep 22, 2013 at 20:07
by   Darkdave
edited Dec 18, 2017 at 04:10
 
There is a say to exit Malaysia two times at the Thai-Malaysia land border, enter the check point for pedestrians and cars, and exit as a foreigner, switch passports then walk to the train station and exit again with the Malaysian passport and the Thai Immigration will shortly in the same place process your entry to Thailand with Malaysian pass.
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answered on Sep 23, 2013 at 14:09
by   Seeking
Bnym, can you please let us know whether you had any issues renewing your Malaysian passport in Malaysia?  I am wanting to do the same but my MY passport expired 12 years ago so I want to know if they officers will have any questions about my renewal when I go, since I have been entering and leaving the country on my Australian passport.  Thanks.
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