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asked on May 22, 2022 at 17:23
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edited on May 22, 2022 at 17:51
by   Kyaw Zin Oo
Dear Sir,

I would like to asking you. I'm Myanmar. I'm a EP permit holder. My wife also lived in Malaysia until 2020. She hold cleaner permit until 2018 for 6 years. Then she had extended her permit with the agency and the permit didn't get extension to 7 years. Then waiting for agent to gave back her passport. Before this 2017 my daughter was born in Malaysia. Then she waiting for the permit extension until 2020 March. Her agent gave her passport back and cannot contact them anymore. She overstayed in Malaysia 1 years and 8 months. Finally my company was changed to another company. So I need to going back to my country and I need to served 3 months of cooling off periods. Then I decided to go Putrajaya Immigration Office and paid fine RM3000 for my wife overstaying in Malaysia and paid RM100 for Special Pass for my wife and my daughter. Then I bring them to went back to my country together. Then 2021 I'm only came back to Malaysia with EP visa . Now I wish my wife and my daughter to come Malaysia with dependent pass.

My questions: 

-Can I Apply Dependent Visa for them under my EP?
-Can they enter to Malaysia with Dependent Pass.?
-Will they get entry in Malaysia again? 

Kindly give your suggestions, sir. 
Thanks & Best Regards 
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 17:55
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edited May 22, 2022 at 17:57
by   jeff005
Show me your EP.
You may delete your name and passport number.

Note..

The above passport page has the most beautiful handwritten properly and clear.
Kudos to that officer.. !!
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 18:05
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edited May 22, 2022 at 19:19
by   Kyaw Zin Oo
@jeff005

Kindly Check, Sir.

Thanks Sir
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 19:15
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edited May 22, 2022 at 19:17
by   jeff005
kyaw-zin-oo

You are in IT..
You are under category (III) EP (Employment Pass).
Dependants is not allowed.

Possible solution

Get your employer to upgrade to category (II).

You may delete your above EP pic. I have captured it..
Use the "edit" function and add some words..
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 19:27
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 19:36
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edited May 22, 2022 at 20:05
by   Kyaw Zin Oo
@ jeff005

Thank you very much for your answer, sir. 
I can request my company for upgrading my EP to Category 2. 

Once it's done can I apply the dependent pass for them?

Before upgrade my permit can they enter to Malaysia for visit few weeks? 

I heard, sometime Malaysia Embassy is approved for visit visa but once they arrived to Malaysia Airport Immigration Counter then some people get refused to enter Malaysia.

Kindly give me your suggestion sir..
Thanks & Best Regards 
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 20:20
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edited May 22, 2022 at 20:22
by   jeff005
@ Kyaw Zin Oo

Sample of Dependant"s Pass of Malaysia
It is actually spelt with  an "a" not "e" as it is "dependent" on your EP as a dependant (human).



Once it's done can I apply the dependent pass for them?
Yes.. but it must be done thru MDEC with permission from your employer.

Before upgrade my permit can they enter to Malaysia for visit few weeks?
The answer is a beegbeeg NO..
Your wife cannot as she is blacklisted.
Your child can if she has already possess a passport as she should have left Malaysia on your embassy emergency travel certificate. So, no records of her is in the MY IMI systems. But being an infant, she cannot travel without one parent.

Malaysia Embassy is approved for visit visa but when they arrived to Airport Immigration then some people get refused to enter Malaysia.

Very true..
Embassy can approve but Immigration entry checkpoints can deny entry.
It all bores down to documentations and the T&C of entry requirements (at the discretion of the IMI Officer at the counter).

Understand this recent eVISA
Your countrymen from Yangon
She was also blacklisted. She is back in Malaysia for a few days already because she could have applied for the correct VDR to come back.



I will think of a possible solution for your wife to come back.

I do understand the current situation in Mynamar. Many Professionals are eager to emigrate.
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 20:28
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edited May 22, 2022 at 20:28
by   Kyaw Zin Oo
@ jeff005

Thank you very much, sir. I really appreciate your help.
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answered on May 22, 2022 at 23:58
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edited May 23, 2022 at 00:03
by   jeff005
Kyaw Zin Oo

Kindly give me your suggestion sir..
Personal Suggestions (non-legal)

First you must time the change of category to (II) to match the period of blacklist of your wife.

In MY IMI laws, there is an option for appeal for re-entry (not cancellation or "clearing"). Blacklist can only expire or by the application for re-entry with valid reasons. The problem is that, in the past, I have observed that MY IMI would not even reply to any appeals. Those successful ones were only after a period of 2 years (personal observation).

She was blacklisted from 26 March 2020. So, can start any appeal from April 2022 but on what grounds? Your contract would end around early April 2023, so any upgrade should be based on a new contract to reflect on the salary scale and should be submitted by early March 2023. 

Upon annual upgrade (or pre-mature upgrade), then you may apply for dependant"s pass for wife and doter. But first must "clear" the blacklisting by appealing for re-entry. This you must really seek options from MDEC. Personally, i believe it is possible that MDEC can issue a VDR for her to come back for the purpose of applying for Dependant's Pass (aka DP1 form). By then it would be past 3 years into the blacklist period making the chances even higher for successful appeal.

Do take note that spouse on D.P. is NOT allowed to work. (but I know your communities have their connections and venues for part-time work). Giving private daytime homecare services for children of expats is also an option.

After coming back on a D.P. she can look for a job, then cancel the D.P. to make way for a EP or VPTE. It would be all about costs and worthwhile or not, taking into acct childcare services costs for your doter. Your doter can study here on a D.P.

A minute advise is that Immigration may require you to show proof of able to maintain your spouse and child here. Hence you have to show some personal savings in your name or wife's name (home country bank savings acct). This would greatly enhance the chances of making a successful D.P. application. You have now 10 months to window dress your personal finances.

I would like to have a copy of the hospital memo issued to your wife during child birth (if any). No obligations. I just want to know what are their new info stated within (in malay). I have 8 years ago ones which can be obsoleted. (i need only government clinics copies only, if private clinics - no need).

If you allow, do email it to me at 
< bladirunner@gmail.com >

Keep my email address for any critical updates (or can update here in this thread. I hope to be still alive, safe from covid to see you re-united with your family here in Malaysia.

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answered on Jul 11, 2022 at 04:35
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@[url=/answers/users/203/jeff005] jeff005[/url]

Hi Jeff, 

I have a question which is really confusing me after going through your threads and answers.
I overstayed know Malaysia since 2019 and I came in with tourist visa from Africa, 

I have been seeking ways to get valid either getting employment or further my studies.
A friend introduced me to an agent who said has cleared my overstay And blacklist in immigration, they are offering me a job and I got the contract already for 2 years employment. After months on giving my passport, I was informed had to go to immigration for thumbprints and capture to collect my passport, pay 3,000 fine and 100 for special pass. 

I have received my special pass, checkout Memo and passport now. The agent says I need to exit Malaysia and will not be Banned, when I get to my home country, they would submit my credentials for employment approval which needs only 1 month to receive VDR to go embassy and come back to Malaysia.

Please I want to know is there a possibility I might be banned at the exit point at airport for 5 years? 
Thank you and your urgent response would really be appreciated. My special pass ends 20 July so I need to exit to reenter after approval come out in 1 month time.
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answered on Jul 11, 2022 at 15:38
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@ Shsbanxy

Just tell me the truth..

How much did you pay to the agent for his services..

How to comment when there are no docs tendered?

Please stop send emails to me privately.
I will answer F.O.C. in this forum, otherwise I do charge for private consultation via emails.


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