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BLI.WM/KLIA Blacklist at KLIA airport

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asked on Nov 27, 2021 at 12:23
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Hi there, I am a Australia passport holder. I was at KL when Malaysia MCO started on the 18th March 2020, on 90 days visitor visa. so I didn't leave Malaysia but stayed with my family in KL. My wife is Malaysia citizen. Because the airline company was all shut, so I never had a chance to leave Malaysia until 2021 Feb airline re-open, so i finally booked to return ticket in June to back to Australia. I also applied short term stay visa in April till May just to cover my staying. In May when i going Immigration office again to apply overstay for May to June, the officer told me there is no need to extend it again, as I have a letter of support from Australian high commission, KLIA immigration will not treated me as overstay. So I believed him, which I SHOULDN"T. 

When I arrived at KLIA immigration, they straigaway put a BLI.WM on my passport for overstay of 22 days, and blocked me for 1 year of entry.  as photo attached. The lady officer also told me I can appeal this blacklist by going to a Malaysia Embassy in any city in Australia, which i tried, as usual no one can help me at Embassy. 

I am seeking a professional advice, what should i do with this blacklist on my passport? How should I appeal it or just don't waste my energy wait till June 2022 then go Malaysia, as the Blacklist is lifted.

Thanks so much for you kind help. I really appreciated. 

Best Regards, 

Nick  
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answered on Nov 27, 2021 at 14:52
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edited Nov 27, 2021 at 14:58
by   jeff005
1. Blacklisting can not be "lifted". It only can be expired.

2. Your wife is Malaysian.. legal marriage? Have children? How long married?

3. To get appropriately good answers, I need the last 2 entry stamps into Malaysia.

4. There is nothing in the above stamps to indicate a 1 year BAN.

5. Did you ask the IMI officers why they stamp a 2015 BLI blacklisting?
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answered on Nov 28, 2021 at 18:10
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First, Thank you so much for answer my questions. 

1. Blacklisting can not be "lifted". It only can be expired.
The IMMI officer at KLIA airport told me can go appeal at Australia Malaysia Embassy to get the blacklist lifted with clear explanation. When I was at Malaysia Embassy in Melbourne, the staff checked my passport number in their system then told me they can't find my name in the blacklist. I didn't ask them if their system is link with Malaysia immi headquarter. 

2. Your wife is Malaysian.. legal marriage? Have children? How long married?
My wife is Malaysian, married in 2011, have two kids both holding Australia passport. We also got Malaysia marriage certificate. Me and my kids all in the queue of applying MM2H. 

3. To get appropriately good answers, I need the last 2 entry stamps into Malaysia.



4. There is nothing in the above stamps to indicate a 1 year BAN.
I realised this too, other ppl post on this website all said how long no entry and my one didn't say. I have no idea. I was only 22 days overstay. The reason I overstay is the the immigration office was shut, all appointment cancelled. 


5. Did you ask the IMI officers why they stamp a 2015 BLI blacklisting?
I have no idea at all !!! they stamped right next to my exit stamp. The IMMI officer looks like a new guy, he was running up and down asking others how to handle this matter, and a lady officer sitting at back had a chat with him, then he came out with my passport got this 2015 stamp on it. I have no idea this 2015 mean year of 2015. I try to argue with him, he said i am only follow the law, I can't help you further. 

Thank you heaps for helping me. 

Nick 
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answered on Nov 28, 2021 at 21:56
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edited Nov 28, 2021 at 23:27
by   jeff005
@ Nickys787
 
Hi Nick..
 
Note that the following comments is subjective and personal view :
 
overstay of 22 days
Did you pay any overstay penalties? I didn't see any. By right it should be documented, stamped in the passport pages.
 
Matching IMI laws & Policies.
 
If even the MY Embassy cannot answer you, my comments will be purely speculative.
 
1. The Embassy is linked to MY IMI on some functions only. Blacklisting should be one of the functions.
 
2. Both parties also do not know how to deal with your situation, so simply stamp the 2015 with a motive. You have exited on 18th June 2021 under a restricted lockdown whereby you can exit if there is air travel in place. There are no fixed polices in place for those same as your situation. The same as even now - no fixed policies (not that i can see it).
 
3. Technically speaking, without a proper date of blacklisting stated in the stamp, the normal blacklisting is of max 5 years for overstay. Assuming it is stamped on 31/12/2015, your blacklisting will expire 31/12/2020. The 2015 year only is arbitrary, so it cannot pass over to 2021.
 
 
4. On the safe side, so as not to waste the air-tickets and big disappointment, apply for a VDR (Visa for Reference) to come into Malaysia for the purpose of the MM2H since the whole family is on waiting list. Although Aussies are visa free for 3 months, this pre-paid visa will ensure trouble free entry once approved. The Visa will be send direct to your residence in AU. It would be issued direct from MY IMI HQ in Putrajaya. Actually you can apply now. Apply thru Malaysian Embassy. No need to wait until June 2022. Anyway, it is verbal blacklist because they do not know how long this pandemic would last. Maybe just discouraging you from coming back immediately.
 
Hope my answers to you is helpful, do revert if it is successful..

Merry X'mas 2021 to U & Family..

#staysafe
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answered on Nov 29, 2021 at 06:20
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Hi Jeff,
 
Thank you so much for your advice, I really appreciate your help.

Did you pay any overstay penalties? I didn't see any. By right it should be documented, stamped in the passport pages.
No, I didn’t pay any penalties. The officer was holding a red colour paper asking others around him, but at the end, he didn’t give me that red paper. Just stamped my passport told me you’ve been blacklisted for one year of visiting Malaysia.
 
I have already applied MY TRAVEL PASS (MTP) for spouse of Malaysian 2 weeks ago, no sure how long this will take.  After I got the MTP, I will follow your advice getting a pre-paid visa from the Embassy, or I can go apply this visa without MTP?
 
I read some of your other post/answer, saying this Blacklist is a very serious thing, the record will stay forever with me. Is this true in my case too? Will it affect my MM2H application?
 
Once again, I greatly appreciate your help, will keep you posted on any updates.
 

I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas 2021 too.

Best Regards, 

Nick 
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answered on Nov 29, 2021 at 23:29
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edited Nov 29, 2021 at 23:47
by   jeff005
@ Nickys787

Nick..

MY TRAVEL PASS (MTP)
I am not clear of the this new MTP. It is a new application.
I think there should be some form of remarks section, you may notify them that you have also applied for this MTP in your "VDR" application.

saying this Blacklist is a very serious thing, the record will stay forever with me
All I can tell you is that immigration of other countries will scratch their heads blad with a 2015 BLI on with a 2021 exit stamp. There is no any blacklisting (even on Embassy systems). It will not affect your MM2H application as it is based on other criteria (my personal view). 

VDR is for a specific purpose to come in (maybe even used for the MM2H application). It is NOT a Tourist Visa. I do not think the basic R&R have been changed yet despite this pandemic period.

You can explain this way. If there is an existing blacklist you would not be able to come into Malaysia since 2015. However you have entered Malaysia in Jan and Mar 2020, means that the any blacklisting have already expired.. !! Technically speaking, once you come into Malaysia, it would auto expire the blacklisting (if any). The stamp is on 2015 and you have entered in 2020.. !!

Why I asked for the last 2 entry stamps. It is to detect if you have max your 90 days every time you come in. If one always max their allowed period of stay, on the 3rd entry, there is a likelihood that it would be denied entry or even handwritten as only 30 days allowed. The number of times entering any ASEAN countries and maximizing the period of allowed stay does have an impact which can result in some form of blacklisting imposed.

So, no worries for your case.

Footnote :
If by any chance that you need to have a new passport, it would erase physical evidence of that stupid stamp and no questions asked from other countries that you may visit from time to time. This is for your case only as there is no electronic record of your blacklisting.

A blacklisting imposed would require a penalty payment plus your thumbprints taken and recorded in IMI System during or just before exit. Did you get thumb printed? (not at the electronic gates for verifications, it is a separate process).

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answered on Jun 14, 2022 at 19:36
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Hi Nickys787
I got the same kind of problem. Did you find if what is the meaning of that stamp. Did you travel back to Malaysia? 
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answered on Jun 14, 2022 at 21:28
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edited Jun 14, 2022 at 21:28
by   jeff005
Did you find if what is the meaning of that stamp. 
It is always incorrect to even think that every one getting the same or similar stamp has the same issues without stating the timeline of your overstayed inside Malaysia.

Your above stamp indicates 
1. you have overstayed
2. you have been coming into Malaysia too often without valid reasons, that's why you have been blacklisted.


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answered on Aug 26, 2022 at 01:25
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Dear Mr. Jeff 

I’m from Vietnam. And I was a student who studied  abroad in Malaysia in 2014. However due to my overstayed for 3 months then I got blacklist since 2016 from Malaysia Immigration. But now I want to go back to Malaysia for work so can you please help me to check if I can go back to Malaysia by now (during this year).  

As I don’t understand what does this stamp mean. I don’t know I got blacklist for 5 years or a lifetime. Anyway, I paid 400 RM at that time at the officer told me that I can’t enter Malaysia for 5 years but I’m not sure if it’s true..

Thank you so much in advance and I’m looking forward to your response. 
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answered on Aug 26, 2022 at 11:19
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@ Yanimach

officer told me that I can’t enter Malaysia for 5 years but I’m not sure if it’s true..
Yes correct.. it is stated inside the stamp (5 tahun) is 5 years.

Technically the blacklist has expired last year.

But now I want to go back to Malaysia for work
Please come back thru proper channels. Come back with a VDR Visa. Find employer first to apply for you.

However you can come in under a Tourist Visa (if ur not from visa free countries) for 30 Days only (if from VN). 
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