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IM.96(c) bsi/ji 02/11/2019 no NTL written

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asked on Nov 3, 2019 at 02:19
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I got u turned from JB ciq back to singapore with the return to singapore letter from the immigration. Read all the answers. But mine is without the NTL notice. 

My wife and kids is at jb now as we are residing in JB for the past 3 years without getting any problems. What should i do now? 

There is a written im.96(c) bsi/ji at the last page of my passport. But there is no written NTL. 

Please help. 
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answered on Nov 3, 2019 at 02:58
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edited Nov 3, 2019 at 02:59
by   Edyfa080808
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answered on Nov 3, 2019 at 12:50
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edited Nov 3, 2019 at 12:53
by   jeff005
@Edyfa080808

But mine is without the NTL notice. 
Dun u think it would be silly of MY IMI to give you a return letter without a NTL number. It is inside the letter and inside the IMI Computer Systems.

 im.96(c) bsi/ji at the last page of my passport.
It is more than a "Red Flag" (For your case).

My wife and kids is at jb now 
They are "Malaysians"?
Is there a legal marriage?
Why didn't you apply for the MACS?

What should i do now? 
Get your legal wife to apply for a LTSVP for you to come back again at JB IMI HQ.

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Pls post a clear pic...!!
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answered on Nov 3, 2019 at 14:37
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Thank u sir for replying.

Dun u think it would be silly of MY IMI to give you a return letter without a NTL number. It is inside the letter and inside the IMI Computer Systems. 
There is no NTL chopped in the letter as well. Only the ref case number. Im.101/j/bsi-kkm

It is more than a "Red Flag" (For your case). 
Red Flag. Means i can still enter but will be questioned a lot. 
 
They are "Malaysians"? 
Is there a legal marriage? 
Why didn't you apply for the MACS? 

There are like me singaporeans. 

Get your legal wife to apply for a LTSVP for you to come back again at JB IMI HQ. 

Not an option for me now. All my belongings are in jb now.
 
Pls post a clear pic...!!
Sorry was not in a proper place when i took the pic. 
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answered on Nov 12, 2019 at 12:54
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Hello Edy, any update from your end? Do you mind share the action that you've attempted. Reason, I'm asking is, i had a similar issues like you. At the same time, Jeff has given is a very good points. The least we can do is to provide update..thanks
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answered on Nov 12, 2019 at 22:16
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edited Nov 12, 2019 at 23:01
by   jeff005
@Izzie

Actually whether there is a "NTL"  stamped is immaterial at all.

Travelers must understand the following points
1.  The first thingy the IMI officers look at is the Personal Details page, the face

2.  Next critical step is the last 2 pages  to see if there are any notifications

3.  The next step is to view the last travel  into Malaysia to see if there are any notifications.

A notification in the last page  is a big problem.
It can have many types of issues, blacklist, ban, and/or other infringements.
" Prohibited Immigrant "  is an infringement depending on the section of the IMI ACT. Unless it is very specifically stated,  it is for all IMI over the world  to see (International Travelers).

For non regular tourists, there are no substantial issues as most passports have a validity period of 5 years. Changing to new passport (if possible) will erase the physical aspect but not the records inside MY Systems. But for those who want to make a  VISA  to a country for travels or emigration or for temporary employment, there are lots of questions asked and to be tactfully answered to the issuing Embassy.

I have been always asked on why an application for a visa have been rejected or been denied entry when even one have a Visa to enter the country. (I used to answer in another international immigration travels in another 2 other websites).

Most countries have to fill an "entry form" to disembark from the aircraft or at land border check points. The following Q will be normally asked in various manner.

"Have you ever been blacklisted, ban or have committed immigration infringements in another country".

Normally, non-regular travelers /tourist do not understand properly and would have answered  "NO".

My answer :  A stamp with any section of the country's immigration laws /ACT, in the last page  indicates an infringement  that have been notified therewith. Some are not serious, while some are, country to country basis. One can be denied entry based on "faked" declarations of the signed "entry form" or during application for visa.
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answered on Nov 12, 2019 at 22:44
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edited Nov 12, 2019 at 22:52
by   jeff005
@Izzie

@Edyfa080808  have stated that his wife and children have been residing  in JB for the past 3 years which I couldn't really understand how it could be done so smoothly.

If he has been hit by the last page  issue, his wife and children would be next. Even if having bought a house in JB, that does not mean one can be "resides"  in JB  unless there have been proper applications in the past, for temporary residency.

The only thingy i can think of, is that the Wife was an ex-Malaysian.

In West Malaysia, the right to live and remain inside is governed by
1.  Temporary Residency  (as in your case, a DP-11 application)
2.  Permanent Residency  (mainly for spouses of Malaysian after living here for 5 years)
3.  Permanent Resident Status  (after living inside Malaysia for 12-15 years)

All the 3 above have different legal status and legal implications.
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answered on Nov 14, 2019 at 13:18
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jeff005 is a bitter old man
His wife left him and he escaped to Thailand
He spends his days answering on lawyerment
When he has time he f.u.c..ks kathoeys like a true gent
He says he works in Thailand,
But everyone knows his true purpose is to hold little boys hands!
jeff005 edits his posts to hide his mistake
with a forked tongue as cruel as a snake
63 years old with nothing to show for it
tick-tock jeff your funeral will be a hit!
oh i almost forget nobody will attend
because you don't even have a single friend!
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