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Parents Marriage Valid or Not?

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asked on Feb 2, 2018 at 12:38
by   shenny103a
edited on Feb 21, 2018 at 03:00
 
My dad and mom married in 1968 at Catholic Church but they never register their marriage with the Malaysian Government. Information that I get is that my parents' marriage is valid under the Malaysia Law. In 1972, my dad married in Indonesia with an Indonesian woman and registered their marriage with the Indonesia Government. At that time, my mom and dad were not divorced. What is the status of my dad second marriage? Valid or not valid based on Malaysian law for second marriage?

My mom passed away in 1974 and my dad separated with second wife 1995 but did not file for divorce. In 1996, my dad married with third wife at Catholic Church and registered their marriage with the Malaysian Government in 1997. According to Malaysian law, my dad's third marriage is valid or not valid? In 2000, my dad became Indonesian Citizen, just passed away.
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 13:11
by   jeff005
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 17:53
 
What is your citizenship?
If all the above marriages are legal, in what way it is affecting you?
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 13:22
by   shenny103a
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 17:54
 
I was Malaysian but in 1998 became Indonesian Citizen. My dad just passed away, and it is about inheritance. All my dad's assets in Indonesia are under his name. His was Malaysian Citizen during all his marriages.
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 13:27
by   jeff005
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 18:05
 
Did your father die living a WILL or dies Intestate?

How old are you now?
How old is your father at first marriage?
At what age he died?
Where is place of Abode in his final years?
Did he change faith upon changing of Citizenship?
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 13:47
by   shenny103a
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 18:08
 
No will. My dad died intestate. Is it correct that before 1 March 1982, it is valid for Chinese to have 2 wives?
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 13:55
by   jeff005
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 18:09
 
Is it correct that before 1 March 1982, it is valid for Chinese to have 2 wives?
No... can have even 10 wives
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 14:03
by   shenny103a
edited Feb 22, 2018 at 18:11
 
How old are you now?
48

How old is your father at first marriage?
29

At what age he died?
76

Where is place of Abode in his final years?
Indonesia

Did he change faith upon changing of Citizenship?
No, still Catholic
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 14:05
by   shenny103a
edited Feb 2, 2018 at 14:12
by   shenny103a
If according to Malaysia Law, second marriage is valid and they not getting divorce only separated, than the third marriage is not valid, am l correct?
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 16:06
by   jeff005
edited Feb 23, 2018 at 01:12
 
Personal (Non-Legal) Opinions:

1.  The First Marriage is valid (Traditional)
2.  The Second Marriage is valid (In Indonesia)
3.  The Third Marriage is valid (In Malaysia)
4.  Your father died Intestate (without a WILL)

The inheritance issue may surface because they are legally married and subject to Inheritance Laws of Indonesia which is heavily tinted with Islamic Laws. Is that second wife dead or still alive?

3 parties can contest for the inheritance... You, Second wife, third wife. For your info, the children (non-biological) of those wives too. All of you are legal  concerns of this dead man.

All these issues are because the Indonesian Marriage have not been registered at the Embassies of both countries.  As far as Malaysian Marriage Law is concerned, your father is a Diamond Bachelor at his 3rd Marriage and you can be an illegitimate child (for the purpose of Inheritance). I remember that the Government had given a grace period to legalize traditional marriages and their offsprings/dependants. No worries, you are Indonesian now.

Once your father has renounced his citizenship in Malaysia, your 3rd momma should register the marriage at the Indonesian Embassy in Malaysia and Malaysian Embassy in Indonesia. Any fight for inheritances will mainly be between you and 2nd momma, unless it is sizeable enough for 3rd wife to join in too.

What type of assets your dad has, that started your query here? Care to share?
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 16:25
by   shenny103a
edited Feb 23, 2018 at 01:14
 
All of us are Catholic Christian.

The second marriage was registered at the Malaysia Embassy because second wife and children lived in Malaysia for about 7 years before coming back to Indonesia.
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answered on Feb 2, 2018 at 17:08
by   jeff005
edited Feb 23, 2018 at 01:16
 
The second marriage was registered at the Malaysia Embassy
Was the marriage registered under Malaysian Laws?

If it is registered, there is no reason that the third marriage can be registered unless under fraudulent means.

You have not answered my other questions.
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