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Can I apply for spouse visa to Malaysia if have criminal record?

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asked on Jan 8, 2018 at 18:34
by   leegor
edited on Jan 30, 2018 at 08:22
 
I am planning to get married with my wife (Malaysian) in the mid of 2018 and we plan to move back Malaysia in 2019. However I did something illegal due to my greed.....  I cheated a person around RM50,000... I deeply regretted now but it is too late...
I will have a criminal record in my own country soon.

In that situation, can I still apply for spouse visa to work and live in Malaysia with my wife if I have the criminal record? I am so worried now.

Thanks.
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 20:24
by   jeff005
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 08:26
 
in the mid of 2018 
Marry this month cannot meh?

we plan to move back Malaysia in 2019.
Why move here, hard to find jobs with criminal records there? Can do self employment.

I cheated a person around RM50,000.
The cheating is in HKD or RM.
The victim Malaysian?

I will have a criminal record in my own country soon. 
How soon is soon? When is the case concluding?

Your actual real issue is the marriage application in Malaysia? Without the Marriage Cert, how to get spouse visa? Note that there is no such thing as spouse visa in Malaysia. A Long Term Social Visit Pass (LTSVP) is issued to foreign spouses of Malaysian Citizens and with further endorsements from the Immigration, can work in Malaysia.
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answered on Jan 9, 2018 at 15:07
by   leegor
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 08:31
 
Thanks for your reply jeff.

Yes, we planned to get married in mid of 2018 instead of rushing to this month.

My future wife wants to take care of her family therefore she will move back and I hope to go with her, we don't want to be separated. My current job in my country is not affected by the criminal record. 

The victim is not Malaysian, I converted the amount into Ringgit for easier understanding and access how severe it is.

The case is not concluded, but my lawyer already kind of confirmed I will have the criminal record...

Thanks so much for your clarification about LTSVP. My real concern is whether I can get LTSVP to move, live and work in Malaysia if I have criminal record.
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answered on Jan 9, 2018 at 15:23
by   leegor
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 08:33
 
I called the Embassy of Malaysia in my own country but they knew nothing. Did research online but couldn't find much. Feeling so desperate now.
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answered on Jan 9, 2018 at 16:17
by   jeff005
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 08:37
 
@ leegor

Why I ask you to marry now? Appear that I am nosy parker?

Reason:
To register your marriage in Malaysia, you need some certificates from your HK Embassy. One of it is the "Certificate of Good Conduct" or whatever they call it nowadays. Your personal report maybe tainted with any criminal record. A criminal record can come with a jail term or without. I really do not know of its implications. All my wives are local.

Without a Marriage Certificate, you cannot live and work here. Can only shuttle to and fro and with the Potential NTL stamped on your passport after many trips. Without the Marriage Certificate, how are the legal status of your children (Just follow mother).. live with the title  Illegitimate Child??

If possible do all the Marriages in both countries before your impeding criminal blacklisting. First in HK and register it with the Malaysian Embassy. Next, come to Malaysia and register the Marriage, register with HK Embassy and apply for the  LTSVP with the Marriage Certificate.  Once successfully applied for, there is no need to furnish further docs. You need not utilize the LTSVP but must have it.

Get a Multiple Entry LTSVP.

I posted replies as I admire your courage to admit you may have a criminal record.

And with a prior legal marriage register with the Malaysian Embassy, you may not need to furnish further documents, just register only, which may avoid any nasty issues.

Good Luck.
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answered on Jan 9, 2018 at 18:13
by   leegor
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 08:38
 
Thanks so much jeff!

Unfortunately the police is unwilling to issue certificate of good conduct if one is involved in any on-going police investigation.

I pay a price for my greed, a price that can change my life completely.
Don't know how to face my fiancée now.

Again thanks for your help Jeff.
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answered on Jan 9, 2018 at 19:14
by   jeff005
edited Jan 30, 2018 at 10:05
 
Unfortunately the police is unwilling to issue certificate of good conduct if one is involved in any on-going police investigation.
If my readings in criminology cases is accurate, one is innocent till proven guilty.

The Certificate is not issued by the police force but should be from the Home Office to the Country Embassy in Malaysia.. If one has no legal conviction, it should  NOT be included inside the report till after the court case is done.

So, to avoid future issues, try to get married earlier before the conclusion of the court case and any conviction.

Do not despair, if you have the courage to post on public media to seek help, your lover would love you even more for your manly courage.

Discuss with your lawyer since you have one.
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