Advertisement

Penang, Malaysia immigration stamp "Im 96 (C) P/LTA /bertarikh 17Nov2017"

930 Views  ⚫  Asked 7 Months Ago
asked on Dec 27, 2017 at 14:53
by   jdutch
edited on Jan 19, 2018 at 07:47
 
This is a great forum and would like to say, I spent many hours reading the forum's Q&A  on immigration that may relate to my situation.  If possible I would like any additional info and suggestions for the following comments.

I am a retired USA citizen and on 17Nov2017 returning to Penang I was denied entry into Malaysia at the airport. Previously visited Malaysia as a tourist with 2 legal exits in the past 6 months.  After questions and reviewing my passport for 5 minutes the Penang's immigration officer/supervisor said, "I stayed too long in Malaysia and I had to go home"  So within the hour they put me on a return flight (airplane) back to Medan, Indonesia.

My question is, in my passport they stamped, Im 96 (C) P/LTA /bertarikh 17Nov2017. What does this mean? and from who-how can I get the stamp removed from my passport? 

I plan to return to Malaysia soon as a tourist and would like to know if I'm going to have any problems entering Malaysia. 

Thanks for your help.
0 had this question
Me Too
0 favorites
Favorite
[ share ]
15 Answers
 1   2   Next »  Last »

answered on Dec 27, 2017 at 15:20
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 07:48
 
 Im 96 (C) P/LTA /bertarikh 17Nov2017
Post a clear copy here.

How can I get the stamp removed from my passport?
There is no way to remove, cancel or undone. However changing to a new passport  MAY clear it visually.

To understand your situation or circumstances better, chart your travels Itinerary here, the various entry from and exit to. You may not only face this problem from Malaysia, but other countries Asean countries soon.
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 27, 2017 at 19:10
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 07:50
 
Im 96 (C) P/LTA /

Basically it is a "NTL" stamp. Not To Land.

In some countries NTL is No Time Limit for immigration travels. There are more notifications besides this stamp. Post a clear pic of the whole page here for better understanding.
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 28, 2017 at 15:55
by   jdutch
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 28, 2017 at 16:46
by   jdutch
 My Malaysia travel Itinerary: First entry 15May2017 exit 10Aug2017, 2nd entry 15Aug2017 exit 12Nov2017, 3rd entry 17Nov2017 was denied entry and stamped Im 96 (C) P/LTA /bertarikh 17Nov2017 in my passport. 
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 28, 2017 at 17:58
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 07:55
 
@ jdutch

1.  Your exit 10 Aug was to where?
2.  Your entry 15 Aug was from where?
3.  Your entry 17 Nov was from Medan, that is why you have been "returned" to there.

Personal views, non legal:

From your travel schedule, it is obvious that you exited and re-enter to get the 3 months social visit pass.  But unlike to some people, they did not stamp a "NTL" on your passport. Did they give you any papers or letter for the immigration on Medan's side?

I plan to return to Malaysia soon as a tourist 
You can come again but be prepared with additional docs to substantiate or justify your stay. And do fill up your entry forms properly.

Not only you but also many backpackers faced this problems @Laos, @Thailand, @Cambodia @Vietnam. Multiple Cross border visits are no longer easy in view of human trafficking, drug smuggling and other illegal activities in these countries. Your re-entry period is too short. Should wait at least 2-3 weeks to re-enter again.

For sport fishing I would suggest Sabah and off the coasts of Gulf of Thailand and Vietnam. 
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 29, 2017 at 12:21
by   jdutch
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 07:58
 
Q&A
1.  Your exit 10 Aug was to where?
Answer: exit Penang to enter Vietnam

2.  Your entry 15 Aug was from where?
Answer: exit Vietnam to enter Penang

Before you read the following Q&A, I would like to say, the Penang Immigration supervisor who denied me entry kept repeating to me, "I have to go back home to the United States, I stayed to long in Malaysia, the Malaysia Embassy in the US will explain why I was denied entry into Malaysia, you must leave now, Indonesia's Immigration will answer your questions."  Within the hour I was put on a flight back to Medan. He did not ask to see my onward ticket (within 30 days) from Penang to Singapore either. 

Q&A
Did they give you any papers or letter for the immigration on Medan's side?
Answer:
Penang immigration did not forward any papers, letters or explanations for immigration on Medan's side, a AirAsia rep carried my passport to Medan's immigration officer. Medan's immigration officer didn't know what to do with me because there was no paperwork or explanation for why I was denied entry into Malaysia. So Medan's immigration denied me entry also and said, "You must go back to your country (US) or a country that would accept you." So the AirAsia representative, who was now responsible for me, asked if any country other than US would accept me. I suggested Singapore and booked a flight. After spending a night in Medan's detention cell the next morning I flew to Singapore and entered the country without any problems.

@jeff005, Thanks for the advise on the sport fishing and I have a number of spots picked out.
0 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Dec 29, 2017 at 15:06
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 08:07
 
there was no paperwork or explanation for why I was denied entry into Malaysia.
There isn't a need for the Indonesian side to know the reason for the NTL  given by Malaysia. By right they should allow you in for a few days as your original path was from Medan. You were merely "Returned" to the port of Embarkation.  

After spending a night in Medan's detention cell
This should not be the case. All the Medan immigration can do is to secure your passport and you should be free to walk around the transit lounge (if any).

It is "normal" for Malaysian Immigration to give a NTL for the 3rd entry on suspicion of using it as a transit point. Read @Dejobog recent and current case:
https://www.lawyerment.com/answers/questions/12534/will-i-be-blacklisted-from-entering-malaysia

Both of you have traveled between 4 countries (including source country).

I plan to return to Malaysia soon as a tourist and would like to know if I'm going to have any problems entering Malaysia.
Basically I do not see any issues in the future (say, after 3 months), but direct from the States. Avoid countries hopping too many times between Asean countries in one single travel.

Im 96 (C) P is issued by Penang airport.
IM 96 (C) / B/B6 is by KLIA airport.

Basically it is a  "NTL"  and since it is not stamped on your passport for the world to see, they did not regard your case as a serious one. Yours is the first (posted on this forum) not to have a  NTL stamp but given one. Same as the Serbian Dejobog. Singapore did not stamp on his passport but has given a NTL serial number (gave to Johor Bahru (JB) Immigration via letter).
1 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Jan 4, 2018 at 14:31
by   jdutch
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 08:10
 
@jeff005, thanks for all your great advice.

Well, let me bring everyone reading this up to date. 

So after 30+ days, I decided to hire an official boarder driver to drive me from Singapore to Johor Bahru (JB). I also advised him about my situation so there were no surprises.

When we approach the immigration check point on the JB side, they flagged my passport. Took me to an office where I was thoroughly questioned, they studied all my passport stamps, asked to see my onward ticket, verified it and wanted to know my intentions for visiting. I truthfully answer all their questions. They professionally explained the Im 96 (c) passport stamp and the reason for my previous denied entry. They also spoke to my driver, then told us to wait in another room.

Shortly after, they advised me the Im 96 (C) stamp will remain in the computer system until updated (?), possible entry questioning in the future if I leave and reenter Malaysia again, and they suggested to apply for a longer stay Malaysian visa (?). Then they told me I was allowed to enter Malaysia and gave me a 90 day stamp.
1 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Jan 4, 2018 at 15:54
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 08:15
 
@ jdutch 

they advised me the Im 96 (C) stamp will remain in the computer system until updated (?)
This means it remains on the our Malaysian Immigration computer system only which is good, as the other Asean countries do not visually or physically see it, or else those Immigration there might turn you back like bouncing cheques. Actually they are forcing you to apply for LTSVP (Paying) if you intend to stay longer. You are on a  Free Social Visit Pass of 90 days now.

apply for a longer stay Malaysian visa (?).
This is the Long Term Social Visit Pass (LTSVP) which has validity period of 3 months, 6 months, 12 months.

Go to nearest Immigration to apply 1 month before the expiry of current Visit Pass.

From my readings, I come to note that for US citizens passport, they can apply for "extension" of stay without leaving Malaysia with valid reasons. The most they give is 2 months, then again, it may costs more than the LTSVP as most of it are last minute applications.

They professionally explained the Im 96 (c) passport stamp and the reason for my previous denied entry.
Nice to know that there are knowledgeable officers around. Did someone complained that our Immigration Department has lots of "chapbarang" officers? Was the reasons given by them similar to what I have given you earlier? Please tell me.. Thanks.

Happy New Year and happy fishing..
Find me a Mermaid if possible..
1 found this helpful
Helpful

answered on Jan 4, 2018 at 16:34
by   jeff005
edited Jan 19, 2018 at 08:25
 
@ jdutch

Our Immigration officer has been kind to you without stamping the word NTL on your passport. Most travelers from nearby Asean often received it as a parting Gift.



I have often requested those who were given  NTL  stamps to post the stamp here and give me a travel schedule of the countries they have just visited and then re-enter Malaysia. Only 10% would reply me and post. There were two foreigner citizens who rebuked me. One says he had lived Malaysia for over 20 years, as though he does not know Malaysia Immigration laws and Procedures not knowing that I LIVED  in Malaysia for over 60 years, yet I cannot fully captured all their current security screening process. Another, a she, from the greater US  (emphasizing on her status), says that she does believe what I had posted, saying that my opinions and views are different from what was stated in the Malaysian Immigration website. Then why are they in immigration issues?

Actually those two posted the moment they were in issues. Those issues were correctable while they are still inside Malaysia. But the passing of more than 14 days, cannot be appealed or helped. The 5 years BAN on re-entry and potential jail term stands with the 3+1 Surrender ended 4 days ago @31/12/2017.

If they had answered the questions I have posted.. perhaps.. maybe.. I am saying maybe.. I could have guided them on the correct path to rectify or soften the impact of their issues.  It is as though I have nothing to do but write and post for fun and asking silly questions. Who is paying for my time costs?  Likewise, you have tested the system after reading and came back after 1 month...  Congrats!
2 found this helpful
Helpful


 1   2   Next »  Last »

Your Answer





By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy, cookie policy and terms of service.