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Coming home to Malaysia without an exit stamp from thailand

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asked on Nov 30, 2017 at 16:46
by   WinstonWu
Dear all, 
I have a 3 year overstay in thailand due to health and financial issues. I am now planning to return to malaysia soon but was told that there was a possiblity that i could be banned or blacklisted for many years. As i have a child here, i am trying to find an alternate way of leaving the country. That being said, i have been offered a couple of 'under table' options.

1) I could be taken across the thai side of an immigration border without getting checked and left to enter the malaysian checkpoint by myself.
In this scenario i would like to know if malaysian immigration would allow me back into malaysia if i did not have a exit stamp from thailand in my malaysian passport.

2) Another option offered to me was that i could just pay someone to take me across both border checkpoints back into malaysia without any stamps or fuss.
In this scenario, i would like to know if i would still be able to renew my passport if i did not have an exit stamp from thailand or a re-entry stamp back into malaysia.

Thank you in advance for any advice
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answered on Nov 30, 2017 at 17:24
by   jeff005
Thailand IMI overstayed Laws.
90 days > 1 year BAN
Over 1 years > 3 years BAN
Over 3 years  > 5 years BAN
Over 5 years > 10 years BAN

If you have a child in Thailand both the options are not advisable.

Qs
Which province are you living in now?
When is yr passport expiring?
From where you last enter Thailand?
From where you last exit Malaysia?
Post a copy of the 2 immigration stamps above, here, for better understanding.
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answered on Dec 1, 2017 at 04:37
by   WinstonWu
I am currently in korat. My passport expires end of 2018 and the last time i exited malaysia was via penang.Since said departure i have done quick visa runs via cambodia until health and financial problems arose. 
Would anyone be able to confirm wether or not i would be able to re-enter malaysia via a malaysian immigration checkpoint if i did not have an exit stamp out of thailand considering i have a valid malaysian passport? Or if i bypassed both checkpoints, would i be able to renew my passport? 
These two options currently seem to be the best ones for me to return to thailand without being banned. I have already tried various sources in thailand and apart from these aforementioned options all others look to me getting banned for 3 yrs.
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answered on Dec 1, 2017 at 05:01
by   jeff005
Nakhon Ratchashima

Thai IMI already knows you have overstayed in Thailand. You have not handed back your Departure Card.

Malaysia IMI is aware you are overseas. At Penang Airport your biometrics have been captured.

If you use the human trafficking way at this point of time, you can be asking for more trouble.

Find other ways.
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answered on Dec 1, 2017 at 15:55
by   WinstonWu
If i were to just accept the ban and return to malaysia via international airport, what are the chances that i would be able to bypass said ban with a new passport? 
If i took my new passport to the thai embassy in kl and applied for a tourist visa would i be able to find out if the ban was still in effect? Or would i still recieve a visa and would have to wait till i am at a thai checkpoint to find out? 
I would welcome any suggestions in the hopes its an alternative i have yet to consider. 
Thank you jeff for replying. I know its not an easy question and i appreciate your time is advising.
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answered on Dec 1, 2017 at 16:36
by   jeff005
I will try to answer yr issue next week.
I am using DMK to exit tomorrow. I heard of new procedures at airport. I will observe what it is tomorrow.

There could be another way to bluff you thru. But must be after before your passport expire. And you must not have reported loss of passport. Do not travel thru international airports. Your pic would be taken.

Let me digest on your predicament. It is for your child. How old is he/she. Have you registered your marriage before yr overstay?

You cannot renew yr passport in Thailand. You have to come back. New security features in new passports. Must be at IMI centres inside Malaysia.
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answered on Dec 2, 2017 at 04:52
by   WinstonWu
Yes.. i understand. Was just wondering what would happen if i went home normally, paid the 20,000baht fine and accepted the ban. After which i went to a malaysian IMI centre and renewed my passport. With the new passport would i possibly have a chance of reentering thailand legally? 
Thanks again for replying. I will wait for your reply amd suggestion. 
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answered on Dec 4, 2017 at 19:18
by   jeff005
edited Dec 4, 2017 at 19:26
by   jeff005
@ WinstonWu

Surrendering now may not be the best option if there is a 5 years BAN for overstay for more than 3 years. For overstaying, they take down your biometric finger prints, so using a new passport would be futile as your name will be on the blacklist. Oso old passport number which will be documented in the last page of your new passport. On new passports, IMI anywhere will also cross check on old passport stated in the last page. These are only some of the new security features on the new passports.

Can you find a way to exit Thailand to Cambodia (enter legally) by hook or by crook? Just like Yingluck Shinawatra.  using the very remote road border pass. From there fly back to Malaysia. 6 months before your passport expire, change to new one, then go to Thailand via BKH Land Border Pass. Do not fly. Worst case scenario, u kena turn back, U-turn.

One crazy guy told me that he walk across one river at the Kelantan border during the very dry season. Pls dun do it, you might drown yourself, okay?

Another guy told me he bought exit stamp from the thai side. And came back legally thru IMI Msia.
Just crazy stories some ppl told me. Dun do it.. okay????

Flying back from Cambodia is a good option..

Just personal opinions..
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answered on Dec 6, 2017 at 20:52
by   WinstonWu
I will try and see if i can find a way into cambodia. That being said, i already can definitely get across thai immigration side without a passport check and be escorted to malaysian checkpoint around sadao or narathiwat areas. If i did that though, would the malaysian immigration let me back into malaysia without the thai exit stamp?
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answered on Dec 6, 2017 at 21:12
by   jeff005
@ WinstonWu

Being Malaysian, IMI will let you come back. There will a chance that they hold possession of that passport, give you a letter to report in to IMI Putrajaya. If you cannot explain properly, they may ban you for a few years for another passport. Bearing in mind your issues is with Thailand, if not allow to hold a passport. you are stuck for a few years in Malaysia. On top of that you cannot go to other countries. Is it worth it?

My suggestion is to use 3rd country as you need to exit from Malaysia and back to Thailand in the future. Any issues with Cambodia, Cambodia BAN you and will sure to deport you. It is easier to get into Cambodia than to come back BKH thru Sadao.(personal views)

In short, to be able to renew your passport, you must pass thru legally IMI Msia. If you can find ppl to bring you out from Thai side, there are ppl to get you across to Kampuchai.
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