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Malaysia Immigration refuse entry IM96 8(3) refuse entry

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asked on Nov 10, 2017 at 21:34
by   84kelvin
edited on Nov 10, 2017 at 21:42
by   84kelvin
Hi all,
   I'm singaporean and I got refuse entry by malaysia Sarawak Kuching airport immigration. Early this year I was migrate to singapore and I'm ex-Myanmar. And I already surrender all the citizenship and passport to Embassy. Last year I was travel to Sabah KK from singapore to KK airport with Myanmar Passport. at that time, I'm still Myanmar citizenship. This year I went to Sarawak with Singapore passport, Immigration officier said I was refuse entry by Server (past record Myanmar passport data is in their server) and chop IM96 behind my passport. there is no written NTL and date of refuse entry. 

Last month I went to Thailand (BKK) and Shanghai with singapore passport which i visit with my ex-myanmar passport before. There is no problem with entering and exit out. 

-First want to know how to solve this refuse entry 
- second it will effect any other country travel

Thanks all of your times. 

Regards,
Kelvin
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answered on Nov 10, 2017 at 21:38
by   84kelvin
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answered on Nov 10, 2017 at 23:37
by   jeff005
edited Nov 11, 2017 at 00:40
by   jeff005
Qs

Were you biometric finger printed at the following countries during entry or exit ?
1.  Singapore
2.  China
3.  Thailand 
4.  Malaysia
5.  Can you tell me in detail what are the normal actions did to/on you from the immigration officer at any country, at the counter? (Not customs check or Airport Authorities Checks).
6.  Can you remember all the critical Qs asked in the Entry Form at Immigration? And what were your answers?

A NTL stamp is a small matter. This stamp is gonna give you a lot of problems from many countries from now onwards if you do not know how to deal with it.
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answered on Nov 11, 2017 at 12:20
by   84kelvin
Hi Jeff, 
Biometric finger print was done in below country..
1. Singapore
2. Malaysia

Other than that no. 

Normally there is no interview.. at normal counter they will chop me and enter

For Malaysia for this time there is no entry form.. 
Normally im travelling for business trip and mostly i put it others or meeting. Mostly is told to them for meeting..

Malaysia officer said their server show Im dual citizen so they refuse to enter and go back sg to contact Malaysia embassy... But in actual I renounce Myanmar citizenship..i came back to sg and contact to malaysia embassy..  but they said they cannot do anything and give me putrajaya passport office contact to call me. I try to call so many time but nobody pickup..
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answered on Nov 11, 2017 at 12:37
by   84kelvin
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answered on Nov 11, 2017 at 20:56
by   jeff005
Perhaps by answering my Qs, you have know why you were not rejected at BKK and Shanghai.
The IMM officer is wrong to say that you were turned back cuz of Dual Nationality. It is none of Malaysia's business. So many travellers from other countries have dual nationalities, even Malaysians.

Your infringement could be
1.  You have entered Malaysia under another passport and you did not declare it in the entry form
2.  You now have 2 passports of different nationalities.

Did the last page of your Spore passport stated that you have travelled before under Mynamar passport and that passport have been revoked by Mynamar? How would Malaysia or other countries know that you had renounced your Mynamar citizenship. So IMM Malaysia will act accordingly applying international Travel Laws and blacklist you by notifying the whole world that you have travelled under different passports by the stamping on the last page.

To resolve this issue, you have to contact your spore home ministry to notify Malaysian Embassy.
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answered on Nov 11, 2017 at 21:23
by   jeff005
edited Nov 11, 2017 at 21:35
by   jeff005
Why I asked what happens at the IMM counters? People are not observant what the IMM officers do with your passport.
For new Passport, or entering any country for the first time,
1.  Officer will read your passport, then read your face and may ask questions.
2.  Turn the pages of your travels to see any infringements in other countries
3.  Will sure to read the last page to see very very critical notifications.
4.  May query what was stated in the Entry Form and make sure it is signed. Well, you can draw a fish at the column/box. You could have fishy handwriting/signature.

It is often that people are given NTL for their second tour trip to Malaysia. Stayed for complete 30 days still not enough and come again within 2 months. Please show proof of financial strength or else will be given a NTL. This is to weed out ship jumpers and illegal immigrants and elements of human traffickers and of course militants.

Filling up of the Entry Forms have to be careful, if not, will be cross examined by the IMM officers.

Here are samples from the Thailand immigration bureau 

Oops cannot upload. Size too big. Next time.
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answered on Nov 12, 2017 at 02:30
by   Kelvin
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your time explain me. I was inform to MFA singapore and MFA officer was follow up with Malaysia immigration right now. I left of singapore passport that revoked of myanmar passport. I will check with singapore ICA for this.

Hope this will solve it..
Regards,
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answered on Nov 13, 2017 at 15:01
by   Kelvin
Hi Jeff,
  If you have sample, please upload for me better understanding.. 

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Here are samples from the Thailand immigration bureau  ""
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answered on Nov 13, 2017 at 15:16
by   Jeff
Sure I have samples but I am not go using Huawei phones. I have taken camera samples but cannot upload to becuz size too big. I do not have any h/p apps to downsize. U got any other methods?

Thailand have started their biometrics 10 fingers printing on their passports and start a Asean counter at airports a couple of months ago. You are only affected by your last page. You have to get Malaysian IMM at the causeway to revoke and stamped on the last page. For sure Thai will deny entry. They are very paranoid on ppl travelling on dual or more passports. All the militants caught for bombings in BKk Hua Him and at the southern provinces are non Thais and have diff passports.
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answered on Nov 13, 2017 at 19:04
by   84kelvin
Hi Jeff,
  Can email me 84aungthu@gmail.com.. After i received, i resize the photo and posted in this post for other people references also. 

Thanks. 

Regards,
Kelvin
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