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I had my Malaysian Citizenship taken from me by the Malaysian Goverment

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asked on Jun 5, 2017 at 23:38
by   rohana
edited on Jun 12, 2017 at 08:45
 
I was, by birth, a Malaysian citizen. While working in UK, I obtained UK citizenship. When renewing my Malaysian passport in London the official demanded to see my UK naturalization paper. I showed it to him, immediately my Malaysian citizenship was taken. It was a brutal experience. I remember weeping all the time. It was my fault and my naivety for not understanding how extremely harsh the Malaysian Government's policy regards this matter. Immigration Department told us if I live in Malaysia for 5 years I can then apply for the M13 after another 7 years obtain citizenship? What is your advice and what is the M13? Terima Kasih.
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answered on Jun 6, 2017 at 01:28
by   jeff005
edited Jun 12, 2017 at 08:50
 
M13 should refer to application for permanent resident (PR) status. It is for foreigners. Not only you, a classmate of mine also 'kena'. But revoked his citizenship to get the other. However after getting old, his health became an issue due to colder climate over there. He is now back hometown applying for PR too.

You are not alone.

A known friend married a Japanese man. 2 years after birth to a son, the husband died of liver cancer. The relatives over there refused to sponsor her. She has to leave her only child there and came back Malaysia alone.
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answered on Jun 27, 2017 at 02:30
by   Abdul Hamid
edited Sep 27, 2017 at 03:31
 
Rohana you have my sympathy. To be very blunt sadly you have fell foul of a policy, as I understand it, that has no mercy, no right of appeal and does not, unless it has been modified, even allow reapplication for citizenship.

In your situation the fact you have a Malaysian birth certificate and you are a 'native of the soil' is ignored by the Government. The only hope of getting your Malaysian citizenship back is either you know a senior minister in Semenanjung who is willing to help or a miracle occurs, some times they do occur, whereby the Malaysian Government changes its policy or adopts a more humane approach to someone  in your situation.
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answered on Aug 31, 2017 at 23:55
by   Simon Soo
edited Sep 27, 2017 at 06:02
 
M13: Now I believe you have to live legally in Malaysia for 7 years before application can be made for permanent residency.

Citizenship: If you have had your Malaysian citizenship taken from you, you will not under the present system get it back.

In 2007 at Putrajaya a policy speech was made by senior Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, I believe the policy set out back then has not changed. The Minister states that 'all who had opted to surrender their Malaysian citizenship have officially wrote into the authorities informing them and requesting permission to give up their citizenship of this Country'. Abdullah went on to state that the 'Government will not reinstate citizenship of Malaysians who have surrendered their citizenship also they cannot reapply for citizenship'. He stated that 'between 1996- 2007 106,000 have given up their citizenship'.

What about the policy regards citizens who, for what ever reason, are found by the Malaysian authorities to have a foreign citizenship?  This is not mentioned. The policy however from your experience Rohana is clear.

I am sure you are not the only one who has found out the hard way, by being instantly strip of their mother country's citizenship.
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answered on Sep 3, 2017 at 03:49
by   PenangLaksa
edited Sep 27, 2017 at 06:08
 
Rohana,

Are you sure they stripped your citizenship from you? Confiscating your old passport is not the same as removing your citizenship. For this to happen, they must have issued you an order. If they haven't done this, maybe your citizenship still remains.

You might want to clarify what the official position is. I also wonder if the High Commission in London have got the authority to perform such an act.
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answered on Sep 4, 2017 at 04:06
by   jeff005
edited Sep 4, 2017 at 05:29
by   jeff005
@ Rohana

Personal views

Under the law of most countries, passports are government property, and may be limited or revoked at any time. For your case, your passport was retained, the instructions will be for you to come to Malaysia to make a new one. You are the Bearer not the owner of the passport same as in the vehicle/machinery Hire Purchase whereby the lending bank is the owner and the borrower is merely a Hirer.

Embassy and Consulate do not have the power to revoke one's citizenship, being protected by Constitutional Laws. although one can file for renunciation of one's citizenship at the Embassy without the need to come back to Malaysia.

Malaysia current policies focus on oneself to renounce rather than to be revoked by the government unless under special circumstances like our Malaysian  ALVIN TAN 's case. There were calls to revoke his citizenship under Article 25 (1) (a) of Federal Constitution. Yet the Malaysian Government did not do so.

You are still a Malaysian Citizen  unless you have sign any renunciation documents.
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