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Detained by immigration police

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asked on May 19, 2017 at 09:46
by   Rod jones
My wife has been detained by the immigration police i don't know how to find out the details or where she is i need to get help for her i am in the UK a British citizen my wife is Thai who do i contact for help
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answered on May 19, 2017 at 11:51
by   jeff005
edited May 19, 2017 at 14:11
by   jeff005
Which city was she caught?
Why was she detained?
Has she obtained U.K. citizenship?
For how long you were married to her and where? Thailand? Which Province?
Who inform you?
Why is she here in the first place?
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answered on May 20, 2017 at 06:01
by   Miriboy
Wooaaah Jeff005...slow down. 

1) the city she was "Caught" is irrelevant.
2) He does not know why she was detained...HE DOES NOT
3) Has she UK Cit... it is irrelevant.  She is married to a UK Cit.  The UK Government has to help their spouses, no matter who they are... unlike the Malaysian attitude.
4) How long is the marriage?  Again irrelevant as long as he has a recognised marriage certificate to prove.
5) Do not understand question no. 5.. " Who informed you" 
6) Any spouse is allowed to travel with their husband.  If he was in Malaysia then ipso facto she was entitled to be with him.

Rod, I do not know where you are at present, but your immediate is to contact the Brit High Com in KL or the Home Office in London.

The Malaysian authorities have no right to detain anybody with out a proper explanation.
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answered on May 20, 2017 at 15:59
by   jeff005
edited May 20, 2017 at 17:44
by   jeff005
It does not matter what I ask

There are a lots of scams from Thailand.
Thailand Immigration have posted on their websites that even a thai lady who marries an European does not necessary entitle the thai spouse to obtain residency or citizenship in U.K. or European Union. There were 100's of thousands of abandoned Thai women who "married" foreign spouses, back on welfare in Thailand. Their spurned "wife".. take revenge on the next "farang". Live in thailand for a while and understand their culture would be beneficial to all foreigners.

For further information, go to the Thai Immigration and Foreign Affairs Website.

And
There is NO "Immigration Police" yet in Malaysia.
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answered on May 20, 2017 at 16:31
by   jeff005
edited May 20, 2017 at 17:38
by   jeff005
1) the city she was "Caught" is irrelevant. 
The Immigration has for the last 10 days conducted more than 20 raids in Peninsular Malaysia.
Where she was caught will determine the location of the detention camp she would be held in.
The Brit High Com can then locate her to help her (if she is on UK passport).

2) He does not know why she was detained...HE DOES NOT 
The person who inform Rob will then have to give some info, or now he has to learn to ask the informant. Any wife have the right to call her husband.

4) How long is the marriage?  Again irrelevant as long as he has a recognised marriage certificate to prove.
In some of the 76 provinces  in Thailand, some solemnized  "marriages" is just a piece of paper issued by some Buddhist Temples not recognized even by the Thai Authorities. Some were even scams to fleece rich foreigners "husbands", pregnancy, house washed away by floods, etc,etc.. The period of marriage would perhaps indicate the quantum of documentation done after the "Marriage". Thailand Marriage with Foreign Spouse is not as simple as in Malaysia or Singapore. "Tour Marriages" have to be taken into consideration. In Iran there are "Marriages of Conveniences" valid for 1 or 2 years.
Immigration Malaysia will only recognize the passport of the detainee, not marriage certs.

6) Any spouse is allowed to travel with their husband.
Thai Immigration Laws. Any woman with a valid passport can travel to any country that accepts Thailand without the need of any escorts, male or females.

your immediate is to contact the Brit High Com in KL or the Home Office in London. 
These are all standard procedures dispensed to all International Travelers. Contact your Home Country Embassy. Like what Miriboy has mentioned..  "unlike the Malaysian attitude".

The Malaysian authorities have no right to detain anybody with out a proper explanation.
Any "explanation" will be verbal, not in B&W by the raiding parties.
Try to challenged it in an Immigration Court of Law.
The reasons given will sure to be changed in the "charge sheet" submitted to the Immigration Courts.
How to get her legal representation when her location is unknown? Within 7 days working days she could be charged in Immigration Court. Without her location, nobody can help, even the Brit High Com.

The Q's i asked sure sounds stupid and like a small child.
It is those who really needs help that will even answer stupid Q's.
It is designed to help the real cases.
And to weed out the possibility of scams.
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answered on May 20, 2017 at 16:49
by   jeff005
edited May 20, 2017 at 17:49
by   jeff005
@ Miriboy

Since there is passed a 30 hours period, there is no urgency from Rod to answer any irrelevant Q's that I have asked, I would be glad to pass the baton to you to carry on.

I do not know UK Immigration Laws only Thai. You are in a good position to help. Thank you.

bYebYe
Take care
Rdgs
Jeff
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answered on May 22, 2017 at 23:00
by   Miriboy
@Jeff005.....thks for your response. Your points are succinct and relevant and I concur.

There are many unscrupulous individuals who enter into sham marriages or take people for a ride and leave them in the lurch...both ways. The Malaysian authorities are aware of this.
Because of my age I know that when Malaya was a colony how many women were tricked with promises and then casted aside. Happened also in Sarawak and North Borneo (Sabah), but not on a big scale. We forget history, but such behaviour has not changed. Do some research on “Convent Girls” and “Orphan boys” when the then authorities in Malaya etc. left it to the missionaries to address.

@Ron Jones...I reread your posting...and realise you are in the UK. The home office in Croydon is a maze. If your marriage is genuine and authentic, and you have a proper marriage certificate, the quickest route is to book a consultation with your member of parliament.
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