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Child a dual citizen with expired Malaysian passport

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asked on May 8, 2017 at 17:50
by   Syasya
edited on May 22, 2017 at 09:05
 
I'm married to a non Malaysian. My daughter was born in Malaysia and has a MyKid card. We left Malaysia some years ago to return to her father's home country. In his country she was granted citizenship automatically and we needed it anyway for her schooling. 
Her Malaysian passport expired some years ago and I admit I was neglectful as I took it for granted that she as as a Malaysian has the right to choose whether or not to be a Malaysian later on and by constitution she can still be Malaysian till the time when she can decide on her own. 

Some months back I tried to get her Malaysian passport renewed at the embassy here, and they required a permanent resident card as one of the needed documents. I told them that we do not have this. 

So my question is, I would like to go back with her to Malaysia. She would enter with a foreign passport. I would like to get her new MyKad as she is almost 12. Will this be denied? 

In the future, when she decides to get herself a Malaysian passport in Malaysia will this be a problem later?

Thank you in advance.
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answered on May 8, 2017 at 18:03
by   jeff005
Malaysia do not accept dual citizenship at this point of time.
What is the issue of having to enter Malaysia with her overseas passport?
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answered on May 8, 2017 at 18:15
by   Syasya
edited May 8, 2017 at 18:17
by   Syasya
@jeff005

I wouldn't doubt that if she were an adult.

Since she was born Malaysian, and being a child, I do not think what action her parents took should effect her rights. She should have the right to choose whether to keep it or lose it till when she is of the right age.

Further my question is more than about entering with a foreign passport. But since she has a mykid card, I would like to know the chance of getting her Mykad.

And when she is of age, if she so decides to be Malaysian instead. 
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answered on May 8, 2017 at 18:57
by   jeff005
Then apply for her passport with the PR status.

There are controls for applications in place for overseas "Residents".

At 18, then she can still come back and apply for Mykad by the giving up of the citizenship of the other country.

You have chosen to bring her out, now asking for her rights? You have chosen on behalf of her, then bear with the inconveniences now. 

Enter with the Foreign Passport. The father and/or mother has to be here to submit their documents to in order to apply for the myKad @12, @18.
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answered on May 8, 2017 at 19:49
by   Syasya
edited May 8, 2017 at 19:54
by   Syasya
@jeff005

I don't know why I'm getting a butt-hurt vibe from you. There are so many malaysian kids whose one of the parents are not malaysian and I'm sure queitly maintaining two citizenships. We had to leave for our own reasons that we ourselves did not ask for. 

My question only if I could still make her Mykad even if she enters with a foreign passport. A clear and unbias answer would have been good enough.

Thank you
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answered on May 8, 2017 at 20:44
by   jeff005
edited May 8, 2017 at 20:45
by   jeff005
My question only if I could still make her Mykad even if she enters with a foreign passport. A clear and unbias answer would have been good enough. 

Have already answered your Q with :-
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Enter with the Foreign Passport. The father and/or mother has to be here to submit their documents to in order to apply for the myKad @12, @18.
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answered on May 9, 2017 at 08:53
by   Miriboy
Unfortunately Syasya you taking for granted that you child is a Malaysian by birthright is wrong.  Our constitution is a bit ambiguous, unlike the Singapore constitution where you have to decide once you come of age. Once you get foreign passport you have acquired another nationality, and as such loose all malaysian rights.

Bring her in with her Overseas passport. Depending from where you are from she will get a max three month stay. A MYcard application only needs her MY Birth Cert. 

The trouble is she is coming in as a foreigner.  They not only fingerprint, but also take a photo of incomers in the foreign queue. The software is getting very sophisticated.  I recently updated my driving licence and they just took my IC photo on the system and used it.  Who is to say they cannot do the same with the information gathered at passport control.  It's a risk.  Her details will be on record.

If you are willing to take the risk, then do what jeff005 suggested:- "Enter with the Foreign Passport. The father and/or mother has to be here to submit their documents to in order to apply for the myKad @12, @18." ........  You being with her should suffice.
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answered on May 9, 2017 at 20:39
by   Syasya
@jeff005
Yes, I saw the answer. That's why I said "thank you"

@Miriboy

Thank you for not being judgemental and for taking your time to reply. :) I will consider what you have said. 
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answered on May 12, 2017 at 01:46
by   Ulu Orang
@ Jefff005

"Then apply for her passport with the PR status. 
There are controls for applications in place for overseas "Residents". "

Can you apply for a Malaysian Passport with PR Status.. what is PR Status??
What do you mean by controls in place for overseas "Residents"
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answered on May 12, 2017 at 02:51
by   jeff005
edited May 12, 2017 at 03:40
by   jeff005
@ Ulu Orang

This for her case @Syasya only. Only she would understand what I meant. Different countries practices slightly different rulings for application of a new Malaysian passport in the European Union or some other countries of which Dual Citizenship is allowed. The Malaysian embassy may want to view the PR card issued in the country @Syasya is living in now. If she cannot produce one, can mean she or her children have already gotten citizenship of that country. As Malaysia do not allow Dual Citizenship, they will then reject any application for renewal of an old passport. These are only SOME of the controls that could be in place.

This is only my analysis, I have never been to Europe before nor have friends migrated there. Someone had posted some good write ups. Google under this website. Find " Miriboy ". 
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answered on May 12, 2017 at 03:36
by   jeff005
edited May 12, 2017 at 03:46
by   jeff005
@ Ulu Orang 

Malaysia now has been branded a hub for human trafficking. For a child under 12 years old coming into Malaysia with a foreign passport, the Immigration here is more strict for first entry. They would check and finger print all 10 fingers and would even take pics of the accompany adult. For the above case, if the mother coming in with a foreign passport, no issues. But during the application of the Mycard, since this child has a foreign parent, they may ask for the passports of both parents and citizenship proof of both parents for identification of citizenship purposes. If the mother have given up citizenship of Malaysia, she would not be able to produce her Malaysian passport. Then the application for the MyKad would fail. Even if the mother can produce the passport, questions would be asked on why she could be staying overseas for so long.

Bearing in mind that this is a marriage with foreign spouse. Additional cross checking would be carried out. It is unlike the case that both parents are residing in Malaysia and are Malaysians, then,applying for MyKad is like abc process. A lot of circumstances depends on what was stated in the BC of the child. I had a few friends that had married Chinese Nationals and has children. Even applying for Mykad is like going thru a Hell's process even if the child is already studying here for the past 6 years in government schools. It is unlike things 10 years ago. Many changes in JPN nowadays. The Laws is still there but application process is more difficult.

A friend told me that each child have been allocated a "student number" a few years ago.
Ever notice the number of stamps/chops/records at the back of each child's birthcert?
Why would JPN issue a MyKid with different colours (BC too)?
The MyKid is useless for any official things. Why still issue? Because things are being updated without the public knowing about it (Guesswork). Maybe in time to come, the younger generation MyKad would even have details of their government school results recorded in their MyKad to avoid frauds.

With so many foreign children living in Malaysia now borned to Pinos and Indons, would JPN be lax in the application of MyKad even if there is a BC stating they were born here? These are possible problems in the application of MyKad for the first timers.

Note :- The above is just personal views/opinions. I do not work in JPN nor JIM.
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