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Beware of Calls from Mahkamah Shah Alam

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asked on Feb 15, 2017 at 02:15
by   jeff005
Recently there are many postings of calls from Mahkamah Shah Alam for Credit Card Debts.

The Avengers have discovered some sinister motive behind it.

It could be 

1. Identity Theft
2. Identity Alteration
3. Scams

We invite those affected to share their bad experiences here.
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answered on Feb 16, 2017 at 02:03
by   Freya
I just noticed the call recorder that I have needs license to be able to have the option of 'saving this call'?

I want to record it, no money is not a kesalahan, but penyamaran yes.
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answered on Feb 19, 2017 at 11:49
by   afangie
For me it wasn't from those debt collectors, It was a certain man who called using a Uk line claiming he works for a company that easily makes money, they can do it within a week of joining, I asked how he got my line, he said he found it online, I suspect it was a school I was applying for online, a school from the uk, this man called me twice a day for one week and it was so annoying, he said this is a once in a lifetime orpotunity and he needed my bank details so that he can trnsfer some money just to shoe he's genuine, I said ok I'll send later, then I hangup and forgot about it because i knew it was a scam. Then he called again and got so angry, saying why are you wasting my time, just give me the details and we get this over with..lol.. I told him I don't need easy money, he can go and give it to the people that can believe his story... Then a few months past and he called me with a malaysian number and asked for the same thing, I just laughed because I remembered his voice, He was pretending to have a Uk accent but I could tell it was fake coz I have relatives and I know how they sound on the phone...I told him never to call me again if he knows whats good for him. the UK line had +44 but the rest of its digits are the exact same ones with the malaysian number he used..  
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answered on Feb 19, 2017 at 23:46
by   jeff005
@ afangie

the UK line had +44 but the rest of its digits are the exact same ones with the malaysian number he used..  
Thank you for sharing
This is obvious Identity Alteration/Theft /hacking.
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answered on Feb 20, 2017 at 19:35
by   vkpc
Now they pretend to be from ABM
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ABM Report
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answered on Feb 24, 2017 at 22:15
by   Cheryl
@afangie

I have been receiving (scam) calls from UK many times, I always said "sorry, I am not interested", and one of the caller (with Indian accent of course) answered me "you are not interested in making money?" 
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answered on Feb 24, 2017 at 22:52
by   jeff005
"you are not interested in making money?" 
Of course I am interested.
Please first bank in RM500 into the handphone you have just called and we can start talk business
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answered on Feb 26, 2017 at 16:09
by   jeff005
edited Feb 26, 2017 at 16:11
by   jeff005
You Should Never Answer If Someone Asks ‘Can You Hear Me?’ On The Phone 

Creepy phone calls are never welcome but if you get one asking if you can hear them, you need to put the phone down straight away… 
There is a very good reason for this abrupt behaviour, as apparently, there is a major scam going round and one you do not want to risk being part of. 
According to the Daily Mail, phone scammers are tricking people into answering ‘yes’ when asked if they can be heard on the phone and using it to con them. 

It’s apparently a major issue in America at present, but its set to make its way over to the UK any minute now. 
Their fraudulent plan involves the criminal calling from a local number and lying about a believable place of work, along with giving a fake name. 
They will then ask the supposedly ‘innocent’ question of ‘Can you hear me?’ on a fully working line and await their victim to answer ‘yes.’ 

The scammers will record your answer of ‘yes’ and edit it into a verbal contract so they can then trick you out of large sums of money. 

Horrifyingly, if you try to fight against their charges, the con-artists will play back the recording of you appearing to agree to the terms and threaten you with legal action. 
Many businesses and now banks have started to use ‘voice signatures,’ to seal deals and access parts of a company over the phone, but these can be extremely risky. 

A call blocking company based in the UK called CPR Call Blocker reported this sort of fraudulent activity is on the rise. 

Head of Marketing for the company Kris Hicks spoke to the Sunderland Echo: 
In our experience of working across the US and UK, scams spread quickly across the pond. 
We have no doubt that fraudsters operating in the UK will soon start using these tactics. 
Well this is reassuring… 
I’d definitely heed the advice though, if someone asks ‘can you hear me?’ on the phone and they’re not your mum, hang up. 
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answered on Sep 19, 2017 at 19:58
by   gambate
i just go a call from mahkamah shah alam...i returned the call just now...and its true..consulted with my legal advisor..he said scam..hehe thank you guys
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answered on Oct 19, 2017 at 18:45
by   Hong leong a CEKIK DARAH
I just received a phone call from this number. He said hong leong has assigned him as lawyer to take action. I asked "what kind if action?". He said "to file for a bankruptcy". Then i asked. "How much the total of my debts?". He said "RM73,000"!!! This so insane! My debt was only less than rm6,000. In 9years back, i tried to negotiate with hong leong to pay my principal + with the interest that was charged during the account was still active. But hong leong rejected my amount. I'm no longer working since i was married 10years ago. My husband just a technician that only served about rm2,000+ per month. I asked him why still charging me interest where my account has been deactivated by bank long ago? I said "Ahlong pun didn't charge that high!" That's more than 1000% from my principal amount!!! 😱😱 . I told that "lawyer" that i will only compromise if hong leong willing to reduce my debts to rm6,000-rm7000 only! More than that i won't layan! 
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answered on Oct 20, 2017 at 18:54
by   data76
Got a call yesterday from the exact phone number, claimed to be from mahkamah shah alam, he knows my last 4digit NRIC number, and my HLB CC number too!
Claimed my last payment was in 2016 (which i honestly, forgotten about it), and say I owe abt RM14k++ now. Need to settle either half, or 5k or 3k if not file for court proceeding and have your bank accounts blocked, in 2 days time. Say he'll call back the next day (today lah)

Curious, i called HLB, diverted to this guy who's in charge of collection, but line not free. Only he can layan me. Promised to call me back. Not a single damn call. Tried calling again and again, cant get to them. 

Citibank collection agencies are much more direct, and negotiable, and makes you wanna settle your debt sooner with them. HLB using this technique, is just despicable. How come no reminders, nothing for over a year and expect lump sum payment in few short days? And since when does the Court calls people for debt payment?

My question is, can they actually freeze all your accounts from other banks, with over 14k debt only? 
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