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Beware of Calls from Mahkamah Shah Alam

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asked on Feb 15, 2017 at 02:15
by   jeff005
Recently there are many postings of calls from Mahkamah Shah Alam for Credit Card Debts.

The Avengers have discovered some sinister motive behind it.

It could be 

1. Identity Theft
2. Identity Alteration
3. Scams

We invite those affected to share their bad experiences here.
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 02:39
by   notalawyer
Seems like debt collectors representing Hong Leong Bank and Maybank are using high tech equipment to trick the telephone network to display Shah Alam High Court's telephone number as the caller id.

There have also been cases where debtors were tricked into banking payments into personal bank accounts.
Please know that Mahkamah will never call people up about their debts and asking them to pay.
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 02:43
by   notalawyer
Please ignore and block any calls coming from 03-55103543
unless you want to get scammed by debt collectors.
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 20:54
by   Freya
edited Feb 15, 2017 at 21:55
by   Freya
Hi Guys,

Finally I found something related to Mahkamah Shah Alam's number 'used' to call people for debt collection.
In my case, it is Hong Leong Bank which I owe don't know how much as they stopped sending statements to me for 3 years already.

Part l: Call from Mahkamah Shah Alam
Let me share my experience, Mahkamah Shah Alam called for 3 times for the past one month (the app True Caller on my phone shows "Mahkamah Shah Alam", but I missed those calls.  When I called back to check and googled, memang it's Mahkamah Shah Alam's number.

And yesterday I managed to answer the phone, a lady named Syarifah said Hong Leong Bank sent a document to them (Mahkamah SA) saying that my o/s balance with Hong Leong Bank is too high, asking her to call me and ask me to pay at least half of the amount, ~45K, else they are going to proceed to file for bankruptcy.

Immediately I asked her, what letter they sent, can you give me a copy? She ignored my question saying they can take action if I don't pay up in 3 days times, so I pun started telling her my story, I have been jobless for 3 years because of health reason, I am an mental OKU. Then I asked what is your email? I would like to send the photocopy of the card together with medical reports to you, then she said she doesn't have an email and asked me to fax to her, I said I am not working mana ada fax, she said bring your documents and go to the shop, I said P&C le, she said just stand in front of the fax machine.

As she sounded like the typical debt collector, I continue to korek more information, after a few pusingan, she said you can also bring the document and submit to Hong Leong Bank's office at PJ, then I asked how many Syarifah in Hong Leong? She said only one (Gotcha No.1, she is working in Hong Leong!), then I asked what's her extension, just call the hunting line and ask for her, then I asked who is the officer in charge of my account (as she doesn't have an email account, then must be kichi-miao lo), she said just look for her.

Oh you are working in Hong Leong Bank? She said yes (Gotcha No.2 - admitted) but immediately she said she works in the law firm 'handling" Hong Leong Bank's o/s credit card and loan cases. (Gotcha No.3 - as I don't think lawyers actually call people for this purpose).

Then she quickly switched, what is the minimum amount that you can pay? I said not working no income, how to pay?

Then I asked her (tired of talking already) her what's Hong Leong Bank's number ah, let me call you back later, 03-76521888 (no need to gotcha anymore, tired), a number which has been in my phone for 3 years.  And can you sms me the address? She said ok.

Just when I am typing this, her sms arrived:
HLBBLevel2, Tower A, PJ City Development, 15A, Jalan 219, Section 51A, 46100, PJ, Selangor.

The number that sent the SMS is 016-3259232, but it is not in True Caller database.

End of Part l.
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 21:48
by   Freya
edited Feb 15, 2017 at 21:53
by   Freya
Part ll: Me calling Mahkamah Shah Alam. 03-55103543

Hello, bolehkah saya bercakap dengan Pn Syarifah?
What is this regarding?
Pn Syarifah called me just now and told me that Hong Leong Bank sent Mahkamah SA a letter about my o/s with Hong Leong Bank. She told me to pay half of the amount else Mahkamah will file a bankruptcy so I want to know what letter they sent to you, bla bla bla.

Ok, let me tell you, you are not the first one and you won't be the last one.
me: huh?
Which bank this round?
Hong Leong Bank.
ok, this type of cases have been happening for at least a year, someone pretending to be our (court) staff called people who owe Hong Leong Bank and asked them to pay or else .... (same long story) ... I want to tell you this is a scam, yesterday one doctor kena (called), and there was once a lady was about to bank in money to a account given to her by the scammer (RM12,000) but luckily she called and checked first.

Can you lodge a police report?
Cannot, we are court ma, we need people like you (me) to go and make, and please please tell all of your friends about this scam, if there is really a case, ask for case no.

Is it always Hong Leong Bank? She said no, others also got, for example, Maybank.  Some even pretend to be BNM!

Above is just the summary chat between me and Sue (yes, Sue), we chatted for quite sometime.
Sue kept telling me to tell everyone I know, so imagine how many times she has been explaining the same thing over and over again.

Debt Collector running out of strategies?
What do you think?
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 22:34
by   jeff005
edited Feb 15, 2017 at 22:45
by   jeff005
Go check your handphone now.

Remember the time the false MSA called. If it shows MSA incoming call and duration, the next one is HL sms, the real Msa call would show your in out going call and duration..

This is enough to lodge a police report.

Screen capture plus request bill from the Telco. Next time capture any incoming voice call. This will nail the coffin of these bill collectors..!!

Compute??
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 22:46
by   jeff005
@ notalawyer

What are the charges under the Penal Code for impersonating court officials?

Death by hanging?
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answered on Feb 15, 2017 at 23:50
by   jebat
edited Feb 20, 2017 at 10:53
 
Seksyen 416 Kanun Keseksaan ada peruntukkan yang bagi kesalahan penyamaran.
Sesiapa yang menyamar adalah melakukan kesalahan yang boleh dihukum di bawah kanun keseksaan.
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answered on Feb 16, 2017 at 00:04
by   jeff005
edited Feb 16, 2017 at 00:06
by   jeff005
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answered on Feb 16, 2017 at 00:27
by   kunta kinti
Whether or not we have evidence, we can lodge police report.
My experience : i received calls from someone claiming to be calling from mahkamah sometime in 2012. asking me to refer to affin bank for credit card payment. i get his (suspect indian) name (of course a fake one). i knew he was debt collecting agent warned him not to call again. but he called again and again with same hp numbers. it happenned while i was in klia waiting for flight transit. i walked straight into klia police station and lodge a report. providing the caller ID and dates, times of calls from that person. stating my reason of report as "gangguan dan ancaman keselamatan dari pihak yang tidak dikenali". the police in klia were amused that time. 
thereafter, no more calls as such. 

i have also another experience (another report) which the police inspector had to do his work by calling and warned the callers.

if we have time (of course), another way to teach the bank (not the debt colleting agency) is to lodge complaint to bank negara bureau should we know which bank and which collecting agency. this method is more effective becos the bank need to react / reply.
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answered on Feb 16, 2017 at 01:59
by   Freya
if we have time (of course), another way to teach the bank (not the debt colleting agency) is to lodge complaint to bank negara bureau should we know which bank and which collecting agency. this method is more effective becos the bank need to react / reply.

Can elaborate a bit?
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