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Overstaying in Malaysia with expired passport

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asked on Feb 6, 2017 at 08:16
by   kiev72
edited on Jan 15, 2018 at 22:33
 
My cousin's sister, a Singaporean, has overstayed in Malaysia for about 3-4 years. She is staying with her boyfriend in Malaysia and now they decide to part. Can anyone advise what are the penalty and her passport has expired too?
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 13:52
by   Winnie
Go read

https://www.lawyerment.com/answers/questions/11868/what-to-do-if-you-overstayed-in-malaysia

Max Penalties under Immigration Laws of Malaysia

1. Max fine of RM10,000
2. Max Ban of 5 years
3. Jail Term and/or whipping
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 15:09
by   kiev72
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:02
 
@winnie

That means there will be jail term plus fine. Am I right?
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 16:28
by   Winnie
Yes

You may avoid the jail if you can pay the fine.

Surrender to the immigration is the best solution. There will be no jail term. If caught on the streets, different story.
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 18:48
by   Bell
The 3+1 voluntary surrender is still on, tell your cousin to get an emergency travel document from the Singapore embassy and go surrender to immigration. No jail time

You can buy her a flight ticket to submit along with the surrender and will be given a special pass to exit within 7 to 14 days(depends).
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 19:59
by   Winnie
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:03
 
@ Bell

The 3+1 voluntary surrender is still on
Please can elaborate on what is 3+1? Is it for long term over staying and/or illegal immigrants workers?
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answered on Feb 6, 2017 at 21:13
by   kiev72
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:04
 
@Winnie

So the 3+1 does not include long term overstaying?  What's the amount for the fine?
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answered on Feb 7, 2017 at 05:21
by   anonymous
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:04
 
The rate is RM30 per day. Maximum fine is RM10,000.
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answered on Feb 7, 2017 at 06:18
by   jeff005
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:13
 
3 + 1 Voluntary Surrender
This exercise already started in 2015. It is offered out to plug all the issues created by Illegal Immigrant Rehiring Programme (PATI), mainly aims at illegal workers (the 1 year Temporary social visit / employment pass) and their employers. It is held with the cooperation FROM the embassies whose illegals workers are here.

The Indonesians had it.. The Bangladeshis had it.. Now the Filipinos.

Singapore is not in the list of "importation" of general foreign workers. The best is to go and check out with your own Embassy for accurate answers.

Interesting unverified reports from the internet. There are only two places where the illegals workers can report to.



For the Bangladesh plantation workers, take note of the following agents that can bring you in to work
Note:- This is also unverified info from the internet.

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answered on Feb 7, 2017 at 20:40
by   Bell
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:15
 
@winnie and kiev72

The 3+1 surrender is still very much on (CONFIRMED) and is for all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. These are the process:

1. Go to immigration to surrender.
2. In case of passport lost or expired, go to your embassy to get an emergency travel certificate valid for only onward journey to your country.
3. Bring along the passport you used to enter Malaysia.
4. Pay the RM400 or thereabout, RM100 from the cash paid is for special pass, the rest is for administrative fees.
5. Your biometrics will be taken, face pics also.
6. You are stamped the red BLI/WM----blacklisted from West Malaysia--actually all of Malaysia.
7. You are banned from entering Malaysia for 5years.

P.S having your air ticket at the point of surrender is the BEST--it makes IMMIGRATION's work easier

@jeff005, it is not just for PATI but for all Illegal Immigrants. 
The agreement between the source countries workers like Philippines and Indonesia was about their embassies working out who to take responsibility for their citizenry flight ticket and other sundry issues. 
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answered on Feb 7, 2017 at 20:53
by   jeff005
edited Feb 13, 2017 at 09:23
 
7. You are banned from entering Malaysia for 5 years
For the 2015 Amnesty, the ban from all those workers I know was 6 months only. Some are already working legally inside Malaysia now... Indonesians and Bangladeshis.

This 3+1 surrender
I do not know about the ban period. If it is 5 years, a lot of workers will not surrender. Might as well let the authorities catch. The carrot end of the line is mainly be able to enter again to work legally.

This lady is Singaporean. Even Singapore Immigration will not be kind and sympathetic towards overstaying. Singapore immigration policies is one of the toughest in the world. They are not kind towards their own citizens who overstay too long in other countries.
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