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What to do if you overstayed in Malaysia

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asked on Jan 3, 2017 at 14:45
by   jeff005
edited on Jan 9, 2017 at 05:51
 
Attention to those who have Overstay in Malaysia

Surrender to Immigration is the ONLY Solution:

1. Bring the passport that you have used to come into Malaysia.

2. For those who have "lost" their passport, go get new Temporary Passport from your Embassy in Malaysia.

3. For "lost" passports and unable to proof with documents the actual date of entry into Malaysia, be prepared for higher fines and longer ban period of re-entry.
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answered on Jan 6, 2018 at 21:53
by   AaravBT
I understand that if IMI officers in doubt they possibly just put me in detention. It makes sense. I will check with embassy  first. You may have saved me from being drained, thank you for the advice sir. 

I am reading about it on Google. there are many articles about this myEG extention. I understand that it is not official until confirmed by the authorities but if it is becomes official, does it mean the extension of 3+1? 

I'm just trying to understand if myEG was in charge of 3+1 and making it easy for illigals to go back home. Or is myEG just for a specific type of illigals. If myEG extention becomes official,  is it good for everyone? I saw on this forum that 3+1 was a very simple process, with no detention. I have some friends in the same situation, we would be very happy if we get a chance like 3+1. 

Thank you again Mr Jeff, you are a life
 saver. 
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answered on Jan 6, 2018 at 22:41
by   jeff005
edited Jan 6, 2018 at 23:36
by   jeff005
@ AaravBT

if it is becomes official, does it mean the extension of 3+1?  
Yes  that is  IF

Keep TABS  on this  thread in this forum. I do have some info from other media regarding immigration announcements. Some can be real, some can be just remarks. I have to do screening for accuracy and validity. I shall post here  when there are confirmed news.

Or is myEG just for a specific type of illigals. 
All overstaying are  Illegals
All illegals working here are illegal immigrants.
Caught working, the max penalties is RM 10,000 and/or Whipping plus Jail term plus Ban of 5 years to enter Malaysia. 
From what was/is stated on MyEG website, it applys to all types of  illegals.

have saved me from being drained,
you are a life saver. 
No.. your situation is non-life threatening
Just may help you to avoid
1.  A very bruised back from 6 strokes of whipping  (caning)
2.  Sore buttocks for free food and lodging in  Jail  for a few months
3.  Checking into  Heart Break Hotel  (Detention Camps) which has negative 5 star status for sanitation
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answered on Jan 6, 2018 at 22:52
by   jeff005
there are many articles about this myEG extention
Legally speaking it is not an extension. Normally for these types of permit services, it is renewable annually with a duration of 1 year. This particular service was just introduced last Oct. These types of  Business News  is not  100% accurate, plus reporters who are not legal wise, reported it as "extension".

This is my personal interpretation.
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answered on Jan 6, 2018 at 23:00
by   jeff005
edited Jan 6, 2018 at 23:34
by   jeff005


Even this banner is misleading. Some "hidden" charges and conditions were not displayed as was discussed in other medias. Same as in credit cards issues.

Min RM 70 per day? 9 hrs? 18 hrs?  I think some locals would join  Legionnaires  of Migrants Workers  in Malaysia... !!! can earn more..!!!
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 04:26
by   Sally
If you have lost your passport. Does that absolve your overstay issues? THis is for an American Visitor. 
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 05:42
by   AaravBT
Thank you Jeff. I'll keep an eye on this forum thread like you say. Let us know when you see confirmation of the myEG news. 
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 09:52
by   jeff005
edited Apr 24, 2018 at 18:03
 
@ Sally

You mean this American?

Lost Passport for an American in Malaysia

asked on Jan 8, 2018 at 04:33
by Martha

Not sure what to do. My passport is lost and I may have overstayed. Will they have a record on file at the Embassy?
I have replied:

answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 09:35
by jeff005

I may have overstayed.  
You mean that you cannot remember things that happened 3 months ago? That is the duration allowed under the social visit pass. 

My passport is lost  
Go get a new temporary one from your embassy 

Will they have a record on file at the Embassy? 
Did you record your presence to the Embassy upon arrival? 

If you have just overstay for a very short period, just go seek help from the US Embassy  QUICK. It attracts very minimal fines and no BAN on re-entry. The longer you delay, the bigger the complications. Proof of entry can be by Airlines Ticketing, credit card purchases at local establishments, etc etc 

I have always taken pics of all my travels overseas, entry and exit immigration stamps, Airline Ticketing invoices, Boarding Pass and send it to 2 email accounts for record purposes.. Just in case my passport is stolen.
Now to answer your query..

If you have lost your passport. Does that absolve your overstay issues?
It will in fact complicates the whole overstay issue.
The burden of proof to have entered Malaysia legally is on the the traveler, otherwise max fines, max strokes of whipping, max jail term, and max Ban period is given.

The new passport or temporary travel docs do not have records  of entry. It merely validify the citizenship of the traveler. It does not "absolve" anything.
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 10:40
by   Amar
Hi jeff

How are the new rules for overstayed person? 
What are the procedures?
 Is the 3 in 1 programme  still available ?

Thank u jeff
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 11:20
by   jeff005
@ Amar

Read  @ AaravBT as above
The answers is the same.
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answered on Jan 8, 2018 at 22:38
by   Catharina
Jeff, a sincere question regarding a dear friend of mine:

We have the following heart-breaking situation:

- girl was born to Indonesian parents in Sabah (East Malaysia) (birth certificate available and old passport mother available)
- girl was issued Indonesion passport in 2009 and work pass (maid) but agent 'upgraded' her age by 3 years to allow her to work (she was still a minor then)
- employer abandoned girl having already confiscated her passport, basically disappeared, leaving her without passport or work visa
- girl is listed by as 'runaway' maid and blacklisted by Immigration (not factually true, but nevertheless happened)
- girl can obtain a new, correct, passport from Indonesian Embassy provided she can a new employer
- a new employer is available, but learns she is still listed as 'runaway', and is unsure what to do

So here we have a girl who never entered Sabah (East-Malaysia), was a minor when she was taken advantage of, and now (age 24)
is looking for a way to become legal and build a life. So now how should she proceed? Is there any change the new employer might obtain a new work visa
with her new passport (now correct age), while Immigration still lists her incorrect/old identity as 'runaway/blacklisted'?

Btw, she never personally applied for a passport with incorrect data, a dubious agent arranged all of this when she was 16. She was born legally in Malaysia,
but how to proceed? What should I advise her? This girl is not capable of understanding these things herself.
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