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Overstayed In Malaysia and blacklisted for 5 years. Anyway to re-enter during immigration ban duration?

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asked on Apr 25, 2016 at 04:35
by   Adam Ng
edited on Apr 25, 2016 at 17:57
 
I have a friend from Pakistan. He has illegally working in Malaysia for the past 5 years. When his passport expired, he went to his Pakistan Embassy to renew the passport and the people has given him a Emergency Passport which valid for a single journey. Since my friend wish to go back to his country, he had applied for Special Pass from Malaysia Jabatan Imigresen under regulation 14(3) with some penalty on him. He paid the penalty, receive the Special Pass and bought a ticket and fly off to Pakistan.

My question is: Can he come back to Malaysia again as the Jabatan Imigresen stamped on the emergency passport blacklisted until 2021.

What is the best way I can help him to enter into Malaysia again (by end of this year)?
I really really wish I can help him out. I need advise from all of you.
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answered on Apr 26, 2016 at 05:47
by   ares
edited Apr 26, 2016 at 20:11
 
No legal way. Come again after 2021.....
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answered on Apr 26, 2016 at 06:49
by   Adam Ng
@ares

I heard people said that we write an appeal letter to Jabatan Imigresen to shorten the ban period. Is that true?
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answered on Apr 26, 2016 at 20:37
by   SunPhoenix
There is only one option; or 3 options if he prefers:

1. Wait until 2021
2. Wait until he is willing to give up after being cheated by blood ****ing agents
3. Enter Malaysia illegally and risk being arrested, fine or imprison, and given 6 strokes and removed from Malaysia again.

Option 1 is the best.

There is no appeal against order of removal in respect of a person whose presence in Malaysia is unlawful by reason of cancellation of a pass or permit or expiry of any pass issued to him.
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answered on May 3, 2016 at 08:04
by   Adam Ng
edited May 14, 2016 at 08:47
 
@SunPhoenix

One more question. Is there any chance if he can apply visa/work permit in order to bring him back to Malaysia?

And is that possible if an employer can help this thing?
My friend's passport get stamped BLI/WM until 2021.
Is WM stands for West Malaysia? How about East Malaysia?
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answered on May 3, 2016 at 15:36
by   jeff005
edited May 3, 2016 at 15:48
by   jeff005
There is no such thing as WM or EM.

Jabatan Imigresen Malaysia is JIM. No such thing as East or West or Central.
Do not play with Immigration Laws.
While ban on re-entry and defaulters enter illegally
1. Fine of RM10,000
2. Jail up to 3 years or more depending on circumstances of arrest
3. Up to 6 strokes of Bamboo Cane for illegal entry plus 3 strokes for working illegally.
4. Forever ban from entering Malaysia depending on the type and number of offenses (includes driving)

Note :- Once the stamp is on the passport, chances is that neighbouring countries will not allow entry too. The only solution is to change to new passport.(for entry to other countries). The risk is all yours to bear.

Those agents who says can bring him back to Malaysia to work is just getting free money.

Solution (Maybe)
1. Use acid to change the contours of his/her right and thumb hand prints.
2. Get a good tatoo master to change certain "nodes" on both the thumb features.
3. Get new passport with new face features.
4. Malaysia do not have "facial recognition" machines yet, maybe snapshot of current face features.
 Soon.. very soon.. 

FBI and KGB is very good at giving new ID.

Never heard of appeal before.

I heard people said that we write an appeal letter to Jabatan Imigresen to shorten the ban period. Is that true?
True, you can write. Nobody can stop you. Defaulters or employers have the right to write letters to anybody including to our BEloved PM.
It would just be a piece of paper rolled into a ball then thrown into the waste basket.
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answered on May 3, 2016 at 16:02
by   catcat
edited May 14, 2016 at 08:51
 
@Adam

Why don't you tried to appeal 1st.. see any response from immigration.
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answered on May 4, 2016 at 07:04
by   Adam Ng
edited May 14, 2016 at 08:52
 
@catcat

Now my friend is in his own country, Pakistan. 
And I not sure how/what to write in the appeal letter also.

@jeff
Many thanks for your kind advise. But it is a bad news for me. Anyway, thanks again
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answered on May 4, 2016 at 16:10
by   jeff005
edited May 4, 2016 at 16:21
by   jeff005
@ Adam Ng

You have no locus standi to write any appeal letter as you are not the "ban" person.
If you write as an ex employer or friend, it means you have harbored an illegal immigrant before.
That admission, in itself, a minimum of 2 years jail plus a fine of RM10,000 if there is proof.

Your friend can write an appeal letter and forward it to the Malaysian Embassy (but of no use).
Embassy have no right to overwrite International Travel Laws.

There are Appeals made successful (I have no proof) but those are mainly personal in nature.
For sure a BOND and Guarantors/Sponsors are secured and a very limited entry period of maybe 2 weeks is given.
The security bond given can be in the region of RM10k.
For work permits purpose.. NO WAY.. There are easily a MILLION of banned travelers into Msia. 
Giving way to one means, ALL the others will have to be offered the same privilege (work permits)
Is it Possible to appeal against the ban or for shorter period??

Even if a "ban" person has a spouse and child here, there is no concession made.
The only way is to sit out the ban period.

For further reading browse here.. 
https://www.lawyerment.com/answers/questions/11434/renewel-of-spouse-visa-for-pakistanis
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answered on May 4, 2016 at 17:03
by   catcat
edited May 14, 2016 at 08:58
 
@Adam

I'm also thinking of helping my friend to appeal... no harm of trying.

Let's do it together gather....drafting the appeal letter for them.  At least, we have tried to help our friends.
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answered on Aug 9, 2016 at 17:14
by   catfish
Hi catcat,

Did you manage to shorten the period?
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